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View Poll Results: Washington DC: Southern, Northern, or No Man's Land?
Northern City with Southern Overtones 13 33.33%
Southern city with Northern Overtones 4 10.26%
A hybrid of both 13 33.33%
No Man's Land- its neither duck nor pond. 9 23.08%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-08-2010, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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In the 1800s DC was considered the south.
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:30 PM
 
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D.C. is the true dividing line between North and South. It right in the middle but does not belong to either side. D.C. is a very unique city.
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Old 03-09-2010, 05:43 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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For the last time DC is not a part of the South... XO - Blah Blah on Vimeo
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:33 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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For the last time DC is not a part of the South... XO - Blah Blah on Vimeo
Yeah, that video really settles it.
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Old 03-10-2010, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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In the 1800s DC was considered the south.
I know some people find it hard to believe that things can change, but a lot of things have since the 1800s.
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Old 03-10-2010, 07:09 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I know some people find it hard to believe that things can change, but a lot of things have since the 1800s.
Yeah, definitions can change overtime. In the early-1800s, Buffalo, NY was considered western.
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Old 03-10-2010, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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No way, no how could DC today be considered a southern city. It's mid-Atlantic/eastern seaboard through and through.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Germantown, MD
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In the 1800s DC was considered the south.
Yeah, maybe the early 1800's. But what year is it now?
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Germantown, MD
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1. I'd actually say that DC is less Southern than southern Virginia; I wouldn't say that it's more Northern. NW DC reminds me of San Francisco in many ways. What do you think?

2. Catholic is not just a reference to blue-collar whites, but blue-collar whites who retain a strong ethnic identity. That's a big thing in all northern cities, right? I'm not sure if DC ever had this. I'm sure DC's Finest or someone else will let me know if I'm wrong. I've just never heard anyone in this area say "Don't push me, I'm a Bethesda Italian!"

3. I agree that density has an effect on lifestyle, but I'm not so sure about culture. How does that change the actual culture of a city?

4. Didn't know B-more had a sub. Apparently, it's only one line. But a sub nonetheless.

5. You were comparing the District of Columbia to Atlanta, no? My point was that it was not an apples-to-apples comparison. You were really comparing D.C. proper to Fulton County, which is much larger (and conservative) than the city of Atlanta. The CNN map has stats for Fulton County, but not the city of Atlanta. The only fair comparison is Atlanta proper to the District of Columbia.

6. Why can't you prove how liberal a city is based on the size and presence of the gay population? There has to be a reason why gay people move there, no? I don't think same-sex laws are a good indicator of anything. If NYC could secede from New York State, I'm sure same-sex marriage would be legal there too.

7. Detroit is the most liberal city in America, really? More liberal than Cambridge, Berkley, Austin, Portland, New York City, and God forbid, San Francisco?!? No wonder why Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and his army of conservative listeners have been calling for the downfall of the American auto industry.

The site you linked to actually says that the most liberal cities, coincidentally, have large African American populations. Detroit happens to be 90% African American. Hmm?

But yes, I would agree that Philly is more liberal than, say, Birmingham.
1. NW DC=San Fran=Boston imho

2. Yeah, DC doesn't have as much of the blue collar, Catholic, strong-ethnic identity type of residents that many other Northeastern cities have, but this is mainly because of its unique history. DC, unlike Baltimore, never fully industrialized, so it didn't receive the masses of European immigrants (mostly Catholic) that other NE cities did. However, Catholic is still Catholic, and the city still shares a Catholic history with the rest of the Northeast predating the European immigration during the 2nd Industrial Revolution.

Map of Religion (states where catholocism is the largest religion in blue):



3. lifestyle is probably the most important component of culture. Density affects the relationships with neighbors and friends, where you work and how you get there, recreational activities, cost of living etc. That's why city culture, no matter where in the country, is very different from rural culture, and even suburban culture.

One thing I forgot to mention earlier is that DC is part of the densely populated Northeast Corridor--a nearly contious string of densely populated areas in the Northeast, from DC to Boston (NoVa to Manchester, NH). This is an undeniable fact:



5. Yeah, and I'm sure if I could find the data for Atlanta itself, Democrats would still make up a smaller percentage of the pop than in DC.

2000 Presidential Election:


2004 Presidential Election:


2008 Presidential Election:


6. I see what your saying. DC only legalized it because it was a city, but I don't think that's entirely true. New York already recognizes same-sex marriages performed in other states. So does Maryland, and every other NE state (except PA and DE) has some kind of law friendly to same-sex couples. Checkt out this map (to simplify all pink means "bad," and all red means "really bad" if you're gay):




7. I understand about the black populations, but isn't Atlanta 55% black?
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:11 AM
 
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DC is a southern city
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