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Old 06-13-2007, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Houston Texas
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The two are apples and oranges, EXCEPT for humidity. Portland has cold humidity, and Houston has hot as hell humidity, even in October! Ugh...
As much as I hate constant rain, I would choose Portland over Houston any day. Is very pretty area, lots to see and do, still fairly safe, friendly, etc. Houston is the armpit of Texas, dirty, crime ridden, noisy, congested, crazy people, crazy traffic (need I go on?), etc.
Sorry you had a bad experience in Houston. I assume you did because this is a usual response by someone who is bitter! The VAST majority of of like this city alot!
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:45 AM
 
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As mentioned before, I do agree with your statement Oregonrain and that's precisely what I'm doing. I feel that there's a lot more to a city than looking at the greenery, mountains and brightly colored leaves. That appears to be the "emphasis" from several people from Portland. That doesn't sell me on a city and that's why I appreciate those of you who can give a well rounded account of the city. So far, nearly every person who transplanted to Portland have found the people to be shallow, distant and unfriendly. This is very upsetting to me as I feel that "a liberal/socialist" community should be the exact opposite. Then again, many people "claim" to be socialist and are really nothing more than ignorant hypocrites, so yes, I'm well aware of that as well.

In the end it comes down to weighing important factors "which are very personal" and then making a difficult decision that will have long-term benefits. Cost of living and the economy is BY FAR stronger in Houston. The big city feel and diverse culture is on the side of Houston. Lastly, I was hoping to at least hear that people are more friendlier in Portland so that you can balance the pro's and cons a bit, but Houston also takes this category.

I agree, I'm not someone who will move to a city where I'll be made to feel unwelcome, rude tone from the locals, economy in crisis, relatively high cost of living balanced with 9 months of rain... And for what? So you can look at a tree or a mountain....lol Being a "true liberal" I feel that Portland needs to live up to the "social atmosphere" that it claims to present. Unless the locals are misleading me, I sense that many people moved to Portland with higher expectations only to be let down. In the end I'm confident I'll make the right decision for my life.

Oregonrain- Have you decided to leave Portland?

I just checked another forum, unrelated to this one, and over there people are commenting the same as hear as to the "unpleasant attitudes" of the Portland locals. That's why it makes sense to plan carefully and ask a lot of questions before jumping the gun and moving somewhere you'll be unhappy.

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Old 06-14-2007, 05:50 AM
 
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Glad you love Houston, sweetclimber. Takes all kinds. Someone has to like it I guess. Is a frightening place to me.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Supernova7, with all the talk, the polls, the threads, have you ever been to either city? If you haven't when do you plan to at least see what they're all about? You do plan to visit both before your decision? Where do you live now?
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:00 PM
 
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All your questions can be easily answered in my prior posts. I'm conducting my research at this time.
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Which thread? Chicago/Houston, Potland/Houston, Houston /Portland, Portland vs Houston, Who's been to both?, Poll:Portland/Houston.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:00 PM
 
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I;ve lived in both houston, seattle, portland and salem. Felt like I haven't had a decent meal since leaving Texas - the food in the south is spectacular compared to here. Cost of living is much less there, everything from housing to food. However, the weather sucks as do the big bugs, reptiles and humidity.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:05 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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Houston is the armpit of Texas, dirty, crime ridden, noisy, congested, crazy people, crazy traffic (need I go on?), etc.
I get so tired of people saying that, it's such BS. Yes, it's humid, and yes, to the east of Houston are some undesirable industrial cities such as Baytown, Channelview etc that may be considered "armpits"...

But really, it's the state's largest city and being so, it offers big-city amenities that cannot be matched elsewhere in the the state. Large cities usually have bad traffic, congestion, and certain areas with high crime (the whole city is certainly not "crime ridden"). In Houston, you'll also get top-notch culture/arts (great symphony, opera, ballet, theater, museums)... theatre district is second in size only to NYC's Broadway. Several of the local museums attract traveling exhibits from overseas that only hit 3-4 US cities, Houston often being one of them. You get diversity and international atmosphere; only 2 other US cities have more foreign consulates. Lots of ethnic restaurants and festivals to sample. Lots of great restaurants, period (named best restaurant city in Texas), and you don't have to spend a fortune on most. Good shopping too. Nice downtown, I like that the pro sports venues are in downtown and not out in some 'burb. Tons of great jobs, almost anyone can get a job and move up quickly in Houston if they have the drive to do so. Lots of smart people between Rice University and the Texas Medical Center (largest grouping of hospitals and medical research facilities in the US). Lots of big trees and greenery around the city. Lots of little waterways too. Unlike most of Texas, nearby water recreation (boating and fishing... Bay Area southeast of Houston has the 3rd largest number of pleasure boats in the US). Galveston doesn't have the best best beaches around (they're decent though), but the city has lots of neat Victorian architecture and the historic Strand is very nice. Oh, and you can hop on a cruise boat and go for a Caribbean holiday from the Port of Galveston...

So if Houston had only negative, then maybe you could call it an "armpit". But it has so much positive that those people who call it that never give it credit for!
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:10 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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...live in hip bohemian neighborhoods with close access to the city (North Portland comes to mind), or live in some crap little suburb....
Sounds like he was asking about a move to Portland or Houston; not Portland or The Woodlands/Katy/Spring/Sugar Land/Pear Land etc. I guess you've never heard of Montrose, Midtown, The Heights, Bellaire or West University...
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Katy-zuela
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Houston is the armpit of Texas, dirty, crime ridden, noisy, congested, crazy people, crazy traffic (need I go on?), etc.
Sorry to break it to you but the Panhandle is not the real Texas. It seems to be an extension of Eastern New Mexico or Western Oklahoma/Kansas under the jurisdiction of the State of TEXAS. Houston, DFW, San Antonio, and the rest of East Texas embody the real Texas.
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