Florida-to-GA...What's the deal??? (Atlanta, Buford: real estate, condos, violent crime)

[bebee]

I agree with Dabotton305
I don't see why JerriellyJay has a problem of having Floridians living in GA. I am an American and choose to move to GA this year.

[gabound]

From what I have read in different threads, it seems that crude remarks seem to be made by some pretty territorial posters.

[BarryU404]

[In addition, Florida, especially South Florida, has changed in the last years, english has become the second language...

The lack of tolerance for people that don't speak English is unfair. Are any of you native to this land? Aren't most of you here because your ancestors decided to emigrate to another country for a better life? For crying out loud, let's learn to appreciate differences and other cultures. America is not the only culture that exists! In Europe, children learn three to four different languages in school. There's nothing wrong with speaking a foreign language! Come on people!!! Let's stop classifying and hating.

[lindalu]

I live in Southwest Florida, It was once a sleepy little southern town where you could actually go to the beach or shop in a store. It is so crazy now that soon it will be another Miami. The tourist season brings many traffic headaches and over crowding so much that it is often an hour wait or more just to go out to dinner. It will eventually be a state full of the rich and the illegals who serivce them. They are now trying to build housing for teachers and firefighters to get them to move here or stay. You can't live on 30-40k here. The average working class is being pushed out. WHo can afford the taxes and insur. We will be stuck in our house forever. We have a growing family and are in a small starter home. The homes in FLorida are also so small, for the same price in Ga you get what we think is a mansion. 5 bedrooms with a basement is huge to us. We are in 1700 sq ft. so you can see the benefits. Also it is soooo hot here and with gas increases our electric was over $200 a month. Last year it never went over $130. I have been To Atlanta area several times and it wasn't any worse than it is here. I actually thought it was better. Just alot of traffic into down town. It is like that in Tampa and Miami. If you don't want to deal with that just don't go into to Atlanta. I realize that those in Goergia want to keep theri small towns too. But what else are we to do?

[Georgia]

Originally Posted by BarryU404

The lack of tolerance for people that don't speak English is unfair. Are any of you native to this land? Aren't most of you here because your ancestors decided to emigrate to another country for a better life? For crying out loud, let's learn to appreciate differences and other cultures. America is not the only culture that exists! In Europe, children learn three to four different languages in school. There's nothing wrong with speaking a foreign language! Come on people!!! Let's stop classifying and hating.

Barry, I think you are missing the point, there is not an issue of learning different languages. Heck, I have english, conversational German and Japanese with a litte Spanish. In a world economy we need to teach children multiple language in order to compete, I.E Japan, China etc. Instead today, our government schools would rather teach Ebonics.

The issue, America's language is English and should be the official language.
Yes, Europe teaches many, however, in England it is english, France is French, Germany is German, etc. etc. all official.
When we have immigrants who "refuse" to assimilate themselves into the mainstream you will move to more crime, more poverty, and third world status faster than the speed of light.

When I travel to Japan, it is expected for me to speak Japanese, read the script for the train schedule, and abide by their laws. Yes, they are friendly and will do anything to help as long as you attempt to repect their traditions and their language. Today in America, Miami is a good example you will find groups that will not speak English and will not attempt to even learn. So again, where does this get us?

[ready2move]

Originally Posted by Georgia

Barry, I think you are missing the point, there is not an issue of learning different languages. Heck, I have english, conversational German and Japanese with a litte Spanish. In a world economy we need to teach children multiple language in order to compete, I.E Japan, China etc. Instead today, our government schools would rather teach Ebonics.

The issue, America's language is English and should be the official language.
Yes, Europe teaches many, however, in England it is english, France is French, Germany is German, etc. etc. all official.
When we have immigrants who "refuse" to assimilate themselves into the mainstream you will move to more crime, more poverty, and third world status faster than the speed of light.

When I travel to Japan, it is expected for me to speak Japanese, read the script for the train schedule, and abide by their laws. Yes, they are friendly and will do anything to help as long as you attempt to repect their traditions and their language. Today in America, Miami is a good example you will find groups that will not speak English and will not attempt to even learn. So again, where does this get us?

As a resident of South Florida, I can tell you with certainty that the majority of the spanish speaking population does not speak english. I was in the mall the other day, and 99% of the sales force was spanish. I was approached in spanish, I am not spanish, do not look spanish and even if I was, I am in a country where english is the first language. Even after I looked at her like "huh" when she was speaking spanish to me, she continued to converse with her co-worker in spanish. She was more than capable of speaking in english. It's rude, it's frustrating, and it's wrong and it's time for me to get the heck out.....

[MyHomeIsInOcala]

Originally Posted by ready2move

As a resident of South Florida, I can tell you with certainty that the majority of the spanish speaking population does not speak english. I was in the mall the other day, and 99% of the sales force was spanish. I was approached in spanish, I am not spanish, do not look spanish and even if I was, I am in a country where english is the first language. Even after I looked at her like "huh" when she was speaking spanish to me, she continued to converse with her co-worker in spanish. She was more than capable of speaking in english. It's rude, it's frustrating, and it's wrong and it's time for me to get the heck out.....

I agree!!!

We have the same problem in Central FL! I am American, just a plain old American who speaks American English.

The last few times I went to the school for one of my children, NO ONE in the office was speaking English, it was all spanish, I feel like I am in another country! Many of the children need special bi-lingual teachers too, because no one speaks english in their family, they do not learn it at home; that is an added cost to our Taxes. It is just dissapointing.

[gabound]

I get my nails done at a salon with only chinese workers... they own and run the place. When speaking with eachother they use their language. I am not going to make them speak english because it's my language! Give me a break! There is no 'official' language... diversity is the spice of life and besides last I checked this discussion was about relocating, not language barriers and those who cannot deal with it.

[MyHomeIsInOcala]

Originally Posted by gabound

I get my nails done at a salon with only chinese workers... they own and run the place. When speaking with eachother they use their language. I am not going to make them speak english because it's my language! Give me a break! There is no 'official' language... diversity is the spice of life and besides last I checked this discussion was about relocating, not language barriers and those who cannot deal with it.

It seems that the issue IS related to why some are moving. It is part of the reason we will be mving back to N. GA.

It is fine, that the Aisans converse in native tongue, but they also speak english to you when you do business with them. I too used to have my nails done in Buford, by a friend of mine in a shop like that... I ran a constuction crew of hispanics, all of them spoke enough english that we could communicate and I speak enough spanish to get by with them as well, BUT,
My issue is not with that, it is with Public Schools. If they can not communicate, they need to learn english or hire a translator. I find it sad and frustrating... Again, not an issue I was ever met with in my childrens' GA school district.

Now that I think about it, I had to have my kids shot records put on the State Forms after we moved, while I was in the County Healt Dept, it was the exact same thing... nearly all of the parents and their children could not speak english at all and they where there for free shots and other free health services. It is sad that our tax money is paying for something that their own country should be paying for.

Again, We are moving back to N. GA., in part, because we did not have this issue there.

[Suncoaster]

Originally Posted by InGA

I'm just trying to figure out what has caused this mass belief that GA is this utopian alternative to FLA???

One thing I can think of, as a FL resident considering a move, is the awesome lack of major hurricanes. Just look at Port Charlotte. Yes, every state has its ups and downers, but Cats 4 & 5 are lethal.