Georgia 2nd Tier Cities, Why ALL THE HATE? (Atlanta, Columbus: fit in, amusement park)

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by Peelo

Its funny NONE of you can produce ANYTHING to prove my statements about Macon wrong....you just keep running your mouths...but thats ok.....lol

Investing in Macon is crazy.....if you had anything to invest, you would know that....I dont worry too much about folks opinions who hide behind screens....There is an open invitation to you Mayor and to you Yerocal to meet up with me and see if what I say is true.....

No i don't need to see anything from someone who hates Macon, of course you will find everything you can possibly think of to make Macon seem as if its a hell hole, no growth and has a dieing economy which i know that not in anway near to be true so, thanks for the invite but i will stick with visiting city meetings, researching the internet and growth plans announcments.... that would be the best, not hearing from someone who thinks just because he consider himself an investor knows more about Macon's future.....WRONG...Oblivously not.....

[Peelo]

I dont think anything....I know. I base my opinions on my own personal experiences, experiences of business associates, as well as FACTS

[MayorOfMacon2019]

You hot today Peelo, you need to calm down, wooo sahh, say it three times and breath deeply, and blow it all out.

[JMZ]

Originally Posted by Mike2008

Why do I sense so much tension between the 2nd Tier Cities of Georgia on this site? When someone feels good about where they are from and mentions positives about their city a bitter, negative person is right there to tear them down. That same bitter person then turns around and gets upset when someone says something about their town.
Perhaps you guys should try living in some of the New Jersey towns like Camden and Newark before you want to talk about how bad your precious Georgia cities' crime and poor leadership are. Why is it a crime for a person to have pride about where they are from?

Nice! Mike2008.
I love Georgia!

[Peelo]

Its not a crime to love where you are from...just state the truth, thats all.

I mean, Warner Robins has PLENTY wrong with it....there are parts of this town I wouldnt take a house if it was given to me. Certain developments here are nice, but the lots are small and I do think that will bite Houston county in the tail one day (especially concerning air pollution). The traffic can be murderous. AND I havent invested in Houston county real estate in about a year and a half..

However, I would buy here before I would be given something in Macon. Just my opinion.

[DisgustaTruth]

Maybe there is so much animosity between Georgia's second-tier cities.. because they all have major inferiority complexes. I exclude Savannah from the list. It's in its own class.. and is known all over as a tourist and retirement destination. Savannah has regularly been featured in magazines, novels, movies, and TV shows.
I mean when is the last time you saw a movie filmed in and about Augusta, Macon, or Columbus? When is the last time abest selling novel featured Augusta, Macon, or Columbus? When is the last time you saw cover stories on Augusta, Macon, or Columbus in major travel magazines? When did you last see Augusta, Macon, or Columbus featured on the Travel Channel?
Now Augusta does host the Masters.. and the tournament gets a fair amount of media coverage... and you see lots of footage of one of the worlds most famous courses.. but you see zip of the rest of Augusta.. and after the Masters is over.. you don't hear anything more about Augusta.. except when a fugitive child murderer is captured there, and a serial rapist is spotted in the city, or when a train carrying toxic chemicals derails in a nearby town in South Carolina and and kills a bunch of people.
You don't see Augusta mentioned as a tourist spot (other than one week during the Masters) or much else about the city..
Same for Macon and Columbus..
when do you really hear much about these cities?? I mean all three of these cities are constantly in the shadow of Atlanta and Savannah.
Despite what local boosters might think... Augusta, Macon, and Columbus are not going to become tourist magnets like Savannah... they just don't have the charm and character and coastal amenities.
And no member of the Fall Line Trio will become the "Second Atlanta" of Georgia. The metro areas may expand at modest rates.. about what they have been over the last 20 years.. but they will always be second-tier or the "Jan Brady" cities..
I do happen to think Columbus is doing a better job with using the resources it does have to its best advantage. Things appear to get done in Columbus and at a faster pace.. whereas in Augusta and Macon.. there is a lot of talk about their potential, but little action in realising it.

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by DisgustaSucks

Maybe there is so much animosity between Georgia's second-tier cities.. because they all have major inferiority complexes. I exclude Savannah from the list. It's in its own class.. and is known all over as a tourist and retirement destination. Savannah has regularly been featured in magazines, novels, movies, and TV shows.
I mean when is the last time you saw a movie filmed in and about Augusta, Macon, or Columbus? When is the last time abest selling novel featured Augusta, Macon, or Columbus? When is the last time you saw cover stories on Augusta, Macon, or Columbus in major travel magazines? When did you last see Augusta, Macon, or Columbus featured on the Travel Channel?
Now Augusta does host the Masters.. and the tournament gets a fair amount of media coverage... and you see lots of footage of one of the worlds most famous courses.. but you see zip of the rest of Augusta.. and after the Masters is over.. you don't hear anything more about Augusta.. except when a fugitive child murderer is captured there, and a serial rapist is spotted in the city, or when a train carrying toxic chemicals derails in a nearby town in South Carolina and and kills a bunch of people.
You don't see Augusta mentioned as a tourist spot (other than one week during the Masters) or much else about the city..
Same for Macon and Columbus..
when do you really hear much about these cities?? I mean all three of these cities are constantly in the shadow of Atlanta and Savannah.
Despite what local boosters might think... Augusta, Macon, and Columbus are not going to become tourist magnets like Savannah... they just don't have the charm and character and coastal amenities.
And no member of the Fall Line Trio will become the "Second Atlanta" of Georgia. The metro areas may expand at modest rates.. about what they have been over the last 20 years.. but they will always be second-tier or the "Jan Brady" cities..
I do happen to think Columbus is doing a better job with using the resources it does have to its best advantage. Things appear to get done in Columbus and at a faster pace.. whereas in Augusta and Macon.. there is a lot of talk about their potential, but little action in realising it.

Oh course Savannah is known for its southern charm, history and its location but i don't remember seeing alot of Savannah promotions for being a hot spot area other than hearing of old people planning to move there or visit after retirement or probably old age couples making it a weekend getatway....
Other than that people really don't consider Savannah for much else.... You mention no of the other Second tier has had a movie or been featured in a movie, Well you must haven't seem the movie of Little Richard's life... which i don't think it was accuatly filmed in Macon but they acted a though they were in Macon.... I Macon has recently got a nationally shine by Oprah's two show in and about Macon........But to honest i think all of the second tier pretty are about on the same level spite some bits of differences but not enough to say that one is on a higher level that the other... I think that you are a little right about Macon,previously i don't think they really realize the potential of Macon's location and how to use it at it's advantage plus having a poor mayor and city council committee wasn't any better, but now i really feel that Macon has a stronger comittee now that will pull together and utilize Macon's full potential.....

[johndoeboy]

Originally Posted by DisgustaSucks

Maybe there is so much animosity between Georgia's second-tier cities.. because they all have major inferiority complexes. I exclude Savannah from the list. It's in its own class.. and is known all over as a tourist and retirement destination. Savannah has regularly been featured in magazines, novels, movies, and TV shows.
I mean when is the last time you saw a movie filmed in and about Augusta, Macon, or Columbus? When is the last time abest selling novel featured Augusta, Macon, or Columbus? When is the last time you saw cover stories on Augusta, Macon, or Columbus in major travel magazines? When did you last see Augusta, Macon, or Columbus featured on the Travel Channel?
Now Augusta does host the Masters.. and the tournament gets a fair amount of media coverage... and you see lots of footage of one of the worlds most famous courses.. but you see zip of the rest of Augusta.. and after the Masters is over.. you don't hear anything more about Augusta.. except when a fugitive child murderer is captured there, and a serial rapist is spotted in the city, or when a train carrying toxic chemicals derails in a nearby town in South Carolina and and kills a bunch of people.
You don't see Augusta mentioned as a tourist spot (other than one week during the Masters) or much else about the city..
Same for Macon and Columbus..
when do you really hear much about these cities?? I mean all three of these cities are constantly in the shadow of Atlanta and Savannah.
Despite what local boosters might think... Augusta, Macon, and Columbus are not going to become tourist magnets like Savannah... they just don't have the charm and character and coastal amenities.
And no member of the Fall Line Trio will become the "Second Atlanta" of Georgia. The metro areas may expand at modest rates.. about what they have been over the last 20 years.. but they will always be second-tier or the "Jan Brady" cities..
I do happen to think Columbus is doing a better job with using the resources it does have to its best advantage. Things appear to get done in Columbus and at a faster pace.. whereas in Augusta and Macon.. there is a lot of talk about their potential, but little action in realising it.

Columbus is doing a better jov using its resources and savannah is in its own class according to you. But when it comes to reality augusta is leaving all the second tier cities behind even with them growing. Augusta won't be a 2nd tier city by 2010. Which should be natural since its metro area is the only 2nd tier city over half a million people. Augusta economy did better than the state in 2007 and 2008. Augusta is booming with growth all over the city. I think you must haven't driving down I-20 in augusta lately. Forbes, espn, and wall street journal have covered augusta. Whether its media or articles


This is what i mean when i say there is alot of construction going on in augusta.

Dr Robert Sumichrast, Dean, University of Georgia Terry School of Business: "There is certainly a strong risk of a recession, but I think the most likely scenario, is growth in '08. I think Augusta will do better. I think Augusta will do better than the state, as a whole, we've got a growing population in the city of Augusta for the first time in a long time."

Augusta's growth helped this small business grow, in '07, and for those here, the hope is thing continue to look good in '08.

Georgia's economy is expected to grow faster than the national economy for the third straight year. And, Georgia will outpace the nation in job growth. The state is expected to create 44,000 new jobs this year.

watermark condos, whites building, enterprise mill, sibley mill, enclave james brown, sutherland mill, are just some projects in downtown augusta alone. There is several homes and other residential areas being built in richmond county and metro augusta.. All will be done by 2009 2010. That's over 1000 people just for the first 6 projects I named.

I think when you down I-20 you will see why the doctor thinks augusta will do better than the state. Atlanta is still growing and augusta will do better in 2008.

[ATLCOL1]

Originally Posted by johndoeboy

Columbus is doing a better jov using its resources and savannah is in its own class according to you. But when it comes to reality augusta is leaving all the second tier cities behind even with them growing. Augusta won't be a 2nd tier city by 2010. Which should be natural since its metro area is the only 2nd tier city over half a million people. Augusta economy did better than the state in 2007 and 2008. Augusta is booming with growth all over the city. I think you must haven't driving down I-20 in augusta lately. Forbes, espn, and wall street journal have covered augusta. Whether its media or articles


This is what i mean when i say there is alot of construction going on in augusta.

Dr Robert Sumichrast, Dean, University of Georgia Terry School of Business: "There is certainly a strong risk of a recession, but I think the most likely scenario, is growth in '08. I think Augusta will do better. I think Augusta will do better than the state, as a whole, we've got a growing population in the city of Augusta for the first time in a long time."

Augusta's growth helped this small business grow, in '07, and for those here, the hope is thing continue to look good in '08.

Georgia's economy is expected to grow faster than the national economy for the third straight year. And, Georgia will outpace the nation in job growth. The state is expected to create 44,000 new jobs this year.

watermark condos, whites building, enterprise mill, sibley mill, enclave james brown, sutherland mill, are just some projects in downtown augusta alone. There is several homes and other residential areas being built in richmond county and metro augusta.. All will be done by 2009 2010. That's over 1000 people just for the first 6 projects I named.

I think when you down I-20 you will see why the doctor thinks augusta will do better than the state. Atlanta is still growing and augusta will do better in 2008.

I think you are wrong about Augusta. I am not turning this into a city vs. city, but UGA said that Columbus is the fastest growing 2nd tier city in GA.

This is a quote from Jeff Humphrey's of UGA's Selig Center for Economic Growth. He is quoted saying, "The Selig Center estimates the city will add 4,900 jobs this year (referring to 2007), finishing with a work force of 128,500, a 4 percent growth rate, the highest rate among Georgia's metro areas.

2008 forecast
Overall, the economist expects the city to generate an average of 4,000 new jobs per year over the next five years. "This year's projected 3 percent employment growth rate will make Columbus the hottest job performer out of all 14 of Georgia's major metro areas, including Atlanta". "The Columbus economy will shift from first gear, where it is right now, into second or third gear this year, and then upward from there."

Sounds like Columbus to me........

[johndoeboy]

Originally Posted by ATLCOL1

I think you are wrong about Augusta. I am not turning this into a city vs. city, but UGA said that Columbus is the fastest growing 2nd tier city in GA.

This is a quote from Jeff Humphrey's of UGA's Selig Center for Economic Growth. He is quoted saying, "The Selig Center estimates the city will add 4,900 jobs this year (referring to 2007), finishing with a work force of 128,500, a 4 percent growth rate, the highest rate among Georgia's metro areas.

2008 forecast
Overall, the economist expects the city to generate an average of 4,000 new jobs per year over the next five years. "This year's projected 3 percent employment growth rate will make Columbus the hottest job performer out of all 14 of Georgia's major metro areas, including Atlanta". "The Columbus economy will shift from first gear, where it is right now, into second or third gear this year, and then upward from there."

Sounds like Columbus to me........

The quote i listed was from the dean at UGA.
Augusta's economy will do better than the state of georgia in 2007 and 2008. I think you are wrong about augusta. Your article only states columbus will have more jobs than other metro areas thats it. Jobs is just one thing to a growing economy in a city. That should tell you something even though collumbus will have more jobs this year. Augusta still will outpace all georgia cities because of how much construction is going on.