Georgia 2nd Tier Cities, Why ALL THE HATE? (Columbus, Macon: real estate, rent)

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by ATLCOL1

Who is the idiot here? Your grammar is difficult to comprehend. You haven't given any facts that support that 7 million sq. ft. of retail is being constructed in Macon. Give me resources that this is true and then I will believe you, but until then I am calling total BS on that amount of retail.

Who cares if you believe me or not that you problem not mine....... who cares about grammar errors, I'm glad to know you were smart enough to understand my post other wise you wouldn't have response to what i had wrote..... like i said earlier i didn't know we where being graded on grammar errors..... Just idiots and loser scraping for amo, to use against me, but who cares... you opinion only matter to you.... surely not me.... but it still stand about macon and if you want support you can look it up your self because i know whats happening in Macon....so i suggest to try to find out other wise don't post comment like that...

[johndoeboy]

Originally Posted by yerocal

finally someone who is thinking realistically......this is what i was saying from the start there really no more going on in any of the 2nd tier cities than one another....

This dude lies on every post so look who you are using as a back up. He hasn't been in augusta in over 15 years. So why are we going to believe what he has to say.

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by ATLCOL1

Who is the idiot here? Your grammar is difficult to comprehend. You haven't given any facts that support that 7 million sq. ft. of retail is being constructed in Macon. Give me resources that this is true and then I will believe you, but until then I am calling total BS on that amount of retail.

Here is some of what going on in Macon, i'll let you look for the rest...

North Macon
Bass Pro Shops - 600,000 sq. ft.
Bass Rd. Upscale Retail Shopping Center - 400,000 to 500,000 sq. ft.
Lullwater Village - 284,000 sq. ft.
Providence Town Center - 750,000 sq. ft.
North Winds Office Complex - 400,000 sq. ft.
Riverside Dr. Upscale Retail Center - 850,000 to 900,000 sq. ft.

Downtown Macon
poplar St. Block to be Redeveloped
An entire city block in the heart of downtown is about to be redeveloped into retail stores, offices and 7 luxury condominuims.

south Macon
Lifestyle/"Strip Center" is under construction in South Macon just off of I-75 South on Hartley Bridge Road. Moon Family Properties is behind this 1.1 million sqft project. It will include 1,700 single family units, two to four story condos, and apartment community, retail, dinning, a midrise hotel, and office space.

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by ATLCOL1

Who is the idiot here? Your grammar is difficult to comprehend. You haven't given any facts that support that 7 million sq. ft. of retail is being constructed in Macon. Give me resources that this is true and then I will believe you, but until then I am calling total BS on that amount of retail.

I decided to do your home work for you..... here is few of was develop just for 2007.... and 2008 is coming....
Macon has over 6 lifestyles center all under constructions, a new 700,000 sq ft open air Mall which brings retail development in North Macon to over 3 million sq ft. Now that’s not including to the over 5-7 new subdivisions underway


North Macon
Bass Pro Shops - 600,000 sq. ft.
Bass Rd. Upscale Retail Shopping Center - 400,000 to 500,000 sq. ft.
Lullwater Village - 284,000 sq. ft.
Providence Town Center - 750,000 sq. ft.
North Winds Office Complex - 400,000 sq. ft.
Riverside Dr. Upscale Retail Center - 850,000 to 900,000 sq. ft.
Total New Retail Space: 2.8 to 3.0 million sq. ft
Drury Inn & Suites Coming Soon
Hampton Inn & Suites

MISC.Macon Developments:
Lakeside Commons -three phase office complex based on a village concept

New Macon subdivisions
THE PRESERVE Subdivision
THOMASTON OVERLOOK Subdivision
Providence Community project (a city within a city) North Macon/Bass Rd area
Welcome to Providence - A Family Village
Providence Subdivisions & Neighborhoods
• Arden Garden
• Callicott
• Carillon
• Heatherbrooke Towne homes
• Huntcliffe village cottages
• Waterford's
• Waverly home
• Whistler

Providence project also includes:
Lifestyle phase will include Village shops and offices, Recreation Center, Amphitheatre and a man made lake called Lake Water fire.
Providence Town Center - 750,000 sq. ft.- Welcome to Providence - A Family Village
Providence, two mixed-use buildings with retail on the ground floor and two levels of loft apartments above, a four-story hotel and conceptual plans for a bank and a pre-school facility, according to the staff report

North West Macon
North East Macon/475 area you have another lifestyles center (Opus Shoppes of Macon) which is included in the 6, I mention in which is going to include large luxury apartments and town home bring total retail space of the Zebulon Rd./I-475 area over the 1 million mark, along with 300 upscale garden apartment units
New sub divison and commerical area at Lake Tobesofkee. The commerical area will know as town center with 20,000sq ft of light and low impact retail and commerical use professional offices and a restaaurant and another area which will provide additonal 12000 sq ft more commerical space. the sub div. will include 70 town houses and 281 detached single family houses. the project was supposed to include condos but they was deleted from the project...

West Macon
Hampton Inn

South Macon
Columbus-based company is turning about 1,100 acres of undeveloped land into a $490 million mega-development in south Bibb County another Lifestyle/"Strip Center" is under construction in South Macon just off of I-75 South on Hartley Bridge Road. Called Hartley Station, Moon Family Properties is behind this 1.1 million sqft project. It will include 1,700 single family units, two to four story condos, and apartment community, retail, dinning and office space, three fast-food restaurants, a convenience store, drug store, auto parts store, a bank and two hotels have committed to be part of a $500 million mixed-use development in south Bibb County off of Hartley bridge rd. The businesses that have committed to the project are Zaxby's, Flash Foods/Dairy Queen, McDonald's, CVS/pharmacy, Advance Auto and Atlantic Southern Bank and 2 Hotels.
I-75/I-475 interchanges expansion/ reconstruction

Downtown/Midtown Macon
• Tattnall Place, a new collection of mixed-income townhouses in downtown Macon's historic district
• Beall's Hill Project-Beall's Hill project is the largest of its kind in the state outside Atlanta
• Proposed Marriot Convention Center (4 star)Hotel Downtown somewhere between 250-300 rooms
• Riverside Project -Riverside, Macon's first mixed use live/work/play development, will sit along the banks of the Ocmulegee near downtown. Retail, office and a hotel topped by
condominiums will extend the central business district farther north along Riverside Drive.
• Mercer’s developed a ( Hilton Garden Hotel) opens summer 2007
• Macon's first new downtown apartment complex in at least 30 years. Although still in the design stage, the 80-unit development will front Cherry and Spring streets
• Macon to Atlanta Passenger Rail proposed….
• Macon approved to hired TBI and privatize the city's aviation operations, and the company it has picked to take over says it can grow Middle Georgia Regional Airport into a secondary destination to Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.( TBI Airport Management Inc)
• Georgia DOT gets closer to finally selecting a plan for the I-75/I-16 interchange(I-16 will be 12 lanes at its widest point, Coliseum Drive will be widened to 6 lanes, Second Street will be widened to 6 lanes, I-75 will be 9 lanes at its widest point).
• 2 Proposed riverfront high rise Condos
• 9 story State of that Art Heart Center DT( Unconstruction)
• Market City Cafe' - Cherry St./Third St. - Coming Summer 2007
• Skye Lounge Night Club - Plum St. (DT) - Coming Soon
• Spaghetti Alley - The Alley/Second St. - Now Open
• Parking Deck/70 Apts./Retail - DT (Poplar/Cherry Street Ln.) - Coming November 2007
• Molly's Cafe is moving into the former CafŽ Giambrone's pizzeria at 402 Cherry St

Newly opened
Kohl DC
Bass Pro DC
Sara Lee DC

Other Macon Developments
- Ruby Tuesday's - Gray Hwy. - Coming soon-East Macon
- Ruby Tuesday's – Zebulon Rd. - Coming soon-NW Macon


- Five Guys Burgers and Fries - Tom Hill - Coming Soon-North Macon

- Golden Corral - Pres. Pkwy. - Now Open-SW Macon

- Advance Auto Parts - Zebulon Rd. (In Opus Shoppes) - Coming Soon- NW Macon

- Starbucks - Bass Rd. (In Lullwater Village) - Coming Soon-North Macon

- Mo-Joe's Wings - Zebulon Rd. - Now Open- NW Macon

- CVS Pharmacy - Zebulon Rd. (In Opus Shoppes) - Coming Soon- NW Macon

- Walgreens - Zebulon Rd. - Coming Soon- NW Macon

- Capital City Bank - Zebulon Rd. - Coming Soon- NW Macon

- Giuseppe's Pizza - Tom Hill - Coming Soon-North Macon

- Cimentos North America - Ga 247 Ho. Co. - (Will Employ 100 @ $43,000/yr) - Coming 2010-South Macon

Microtel Inn & Suite - Bowman Rd. - Coming Soon

BB&T Bank - Bass Rd. (Market Place @ Bass) - Coming 2008-North Macon

McDonald's - Bass Rd. (Market Place @ Bass) - Coming Fall 2007-North Macon

Quiznos - Across from Bass Pro Shop- North Macon

Firehouse Subs - Eisenhower Crossing - Coming Soon-SW Macon
The Fresh Market (Grocery) - Rivoli Crossing - Coming Soon-NW Macon

Pizza Hut/Wing Street - Eisenhower Annex - Coming Summer 2007-SW Macon
Hampton Inn & Suites - (off of Arkrigth Rd.) - Coming Winter 2007-North Macon

New Southern Bank - Bass Rd. - Coming Summer 2007-North Macon

World Farmers Market - Columbus Rd./Thomaston Rd. - Coming Soon-SW Macon

MBM/Chick-fil-A Distribution Center - Ocmulgee East Industrial Park - Coming Fall 2007 (200 jobs)-East Macon

ACADEMY SPORTS & OUTDOORS DISTRIBUTION CENTER!!! (200 Jobs) - I-16 (Twiggs Co.) - Coming 2009

In the area Developements
Fort Valley State University Discussing Hotel/Golf Course Resort Possibility

Crumbly, the college vice president of Collaborative Programs is discussing possibility of developing Public/private Partnerships to build a 250 room hotel/ conference center and 18 holes PGA golf course restaurant and other amenities on the university Farm property. The facilities would be part of a new degree programs for golf course management, turf management and hotel management.
Frito Lay (Expansion) - 80 Jobs - Houston Co.

Houston County's Oaky Woods to be Development of 30,000 new homes

This is just off the top of my head

[King_X]

Originally Posted by Peelo

And what I said was that Macon`s "nice liveable neighborhoods" are just seconds away from a bad neighborhood. And it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that my mentioning the shooting wasnt an attempt to prove anything...other than Macon is a crime ridden hell hole....and moron, I wasnt laughing at the killing...I was laughing because you guys were just saying what a wonderful town Macon was and this poor lady gets herself and her house riddled with 70 damn bullets.....

I'm not like some of you guys trying to act like my city is so much more holy/better than others (as I have even said Augusta and Savannah are more urban places with more to do than here).
I never said it was just a wonderland. I'm just saying that honestly it all depends on where you're at within these cities. Each city has areas that are more or less nice than areas in other cities.

You're just a bitter person who complains anytime someone says they find Macon to be nice. It's fine to have your opinion but don't run things in the ground, exaggerate beyond reality, or lie (like you did about Macon's murders being recorded at record #'s even though lately its been much lower than in the late 90s, which makes that untrue aka a lie)

You come off as immature.

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by johndoeboy

Ok but as of 2006 macon msa is only 229,000 and CSA 381,801


1. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA MSA 5,138,223

2. Augusta-Richmond County, GA-SC MSA 523,249

3. Savannah, GA MSA 320,013

4. Columbus, GA-AL MSA 288,847

5. Macon, GA MSA 229,326


CSA

1. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL CSA 5,478,667

2. Augusta-Richmond County, GA-SC MSA 523,249

3. Columbus-Auburn-Opelika, GA-AL CSA 437,222

4. Savannah-Hinesville-Fort Stewart, GA CSA 394,036

5. Macon-Warner Robins-Fort Valley, GA CSA 381,801

New Georgia Encyclopedia: Macon
Macon, Georgia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Middle Georgia Regional Development Center

[Peelo]

Once again, I give my opinion....LOL....MACON IS A DUMP!!! Dont like the place..at all. You cant change that.
Yerocal...over half the development you post will never fill up...Once again, DEVELOPMENT DOESNT MEAN GROWTH!!! Why is that so hard for you to understand? Not to mention, alot of your post was repetition....LOL...but whatever you want to believe is fine with me....LOL....

[Peelo]

Oh yeah...and no, I`m not bitter at all....I just hate Macon, and if you can give your views, then I will give mine. Simple as that.

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by Peelo

Once again, I give my opinion....LOL....MACON IS A DUMP!!! Dont like the place..at all. You cant change that.
Yerocal...over half the development you post will never fill up...Once again, DEVELOPMENT DOESNT MEAN GROWTH!!! Why is that so hard for you to understand? Not to mention, alot of your post was repetition....LOL...but whatever you want to believe is fine with me....LOL....

Who cares if you hate Macon no ones trying to change you mind.....Idiot...because you clearly represent one...

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by Peelo

Oh yeah...and no, I`m not bitter at all....I just hate Macon, and if you can give your views, then I will give mine. Simple as that.

you should even if it doesn't makes any sense.....like yours do...