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Old 04-14-2018, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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The MSA estimates seem to be fairly reliable.
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For the most part yes. Of course some will be off. Mostly though, they fall in an acceptable range of the new census.
I think they have had a gut reactive response to the last over achieving numbers and are overly cautious since the last census. From the ditch by the cliff to the safer ditch by the mountain. Just my take.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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Albany: 151,434 (-1,006 since 2016)

Valdosta: 145,437 (+1,003 since 2016)

Warner Robins: 191,779 (+1,711 since 2016)
Albany's losses have been offset by neighboring Lee County's growth.

Albany was once in the top 7 largest cities in GA, but my have things gone down hill since my childhood.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Columbus, GA
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Albany's losses have been offset by neighboring Lee County's growth.

Albany was once in the top 7 largest cities in GA, but my have things gone down hill since my childhood.
Those numbers include Lee County growth because they are the metro area. It isn't like Albany has lost that much population, it's just that cities like Athens, Warner Robins, and those around Atlanta have exploded.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Outer Boroughs, NYC
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Albany's losses have been offset by neighboring Lee County's growth.

Albany was once in the top 7 largest cities in GA, but my have things gone down hill since my childhood.
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Those numbers include Lee County growth because they are the metro area. It isn't like Albany has lost that much population, it's just that cities like Athens, Warner Robins, and those around Atlanta have exploded.
That's simply untrue. Lee County's population has been flat since the 2010 Census. 2017 US Census estimates show that Lee gained only 100 residents since the last census. Dougherty County is far worse -- it has been on a downward demographic spiral since 1980: it has lost 10.5% of its total population since the 1980 Census. The Albany MSA is the weakest metro area in Georgia and perhaps the entire South.

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Old 04-19-2018, 01:11 PM
 
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Luckily Augusta has neighboring Columbia county which is one of the fastest growing counties in the state..otherwise Augusta would be in the same boat as Albany..as Richmond County's population has essentially been stagnant for the past 20 years. I would not be surprised if byvtge 2030 census Columbia County surpasses Richmond County in population. That would be interesting for a suburban county to surpass the county with the core city in population. But I suppose it is not unprecedented. Suburban Fairfax County, VA is the most populous county in the Washington, DC metro area
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Old 04-19-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Outer Boroughs, NYC
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That would be interesting for a suburban county to surpass the county with the core city in population. But I suppose it is not unprecedented. Suburban Fairfax County, VA is the most populous county in the Washington, DC metro area
That would be interesting. I'm still trying to accept the fact that in 2017 Georgia's Houston County just exceeded Bibb in population.
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Old 04-19-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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That would be interesting. I'm still trying to accept the fact that in 2017 Georgia's Houston County just exceeded Bibb in population.
I was not aware of that but kinda makes sense. If Columbia County keeps up is current growth rate it should exceed Richmond County by population by 2030 census if not before
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Old 04-19-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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Those numbers include Lee County growth because they are the metro area. It isn't like Albany has lost that much population, it's just that cities like Athens, Warner Robins, and those around Atlanta have exploded.
Lee County's population has nearly tripled since 1980.
11,684 - 1980
28,946 - 2018

Dougherty County has lost 7000+ in population.
100,718 - 1980
93,310 - 2018

This is the primary reason that Dougherty County Commissioners filed CON objects (despite having no standing) to the Lee County Medical Center, which is expected to be the catalyst of a medical park.

The Governor's Office of Planning and Planning has Lee County Population Growing at almost 2% per year, or approximately 600 persons.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attac...1&d=1524175429

I stand by my comment that Lee County population growth has offset Dougherty County's population losses.
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Old 04-19-2018, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Outer Boroughs, NYC
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Lee County's population has nearly tripled since 1980.
11,684 - 1980
28,946 - 2018

Dougherty County has lost 7000+ in population.
100,718 - 1980
93,310 - 2018

This is the primary reason that Dougherty County Commissioners filed CON objects (despite having no standing) to the Lee County Medical Center, which is expected to be the catalyst of a medical park.

The Governor's Office of Planning and Planning has Lee County Population Growing at almost 2% per year, or approximately 600 persons.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attac...1&d=1524175429

I stand by my comment that Lee County population growth has offset Dougherty County's population losses.
"2018" is incorrect. US Census 2017 estimates were just released last month (2018 figures won't be available till next year). Also, 1980 was 38 years ago, a different era. Lee's growth was 1,172, or 4.1%, for 2010-2017, but not enough to offset steep losses in the other Albany MSA counties. The relevant numbers this decade show the recent Albany MSA trends. Per the US Census website:

Lee County, 2010 Census 28,298
Lee County, 2017 estimate 29,470 gain: 1,172

Dougherty County, 2010 Census 94,565
Dougherty County, 2017 estimate 89,502 loss: 5,063

Total Albany MSA, 2010 Census 157,308
Total Albany MSA, 2017 estimate 151,434 loss: 5,874

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Old 04-19-2018, 09:28 PM
 
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I referenced the following sites.

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/lee-county-ga/

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/dougherty-county-ga/

First, 2010 is not the initial milestone I referneced. 1980 (aka my childhood) is.

While I cannot speak to the specifics of Dougherty County, as a political appointee serving Lee County I can tell you that Lee County's datausa numbers are conservative.

The numbers don't lie. Since 1980, Lee County has more than offset the losses for Dougherty County. I made no mention of Baker, Terrell or Worth counties.
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