Augusta's growth rate leads Columbia, SC; Chattanooga, TN; and Cobb County, Athens, Macon and Savannah in GA in 2008 (Columbus: income, vs.)

[ATLCOL1]

Originally Posted by joeyrun

The city of Augusta or Richmond County are not losing population. Our metro population is growing faster than columbus, savannah, and macon.

And columbus in population growth will beat out the 2nd tier cities. That won't happen definitely in metro population growth or even city population growth. And oh my god did you say as for as retail growth Macon is leading there. Have you been to Augusta lately? I have driven through columbus, macon, and savannah this year. And the amount of construction going on in those cities. Can't even compare to the amount of construction in Augusta.

Depends on where you drive in Columbus. Majority of the growth in Columbus is off of the freeways so it is not visible from a person passing thru. Metro Columbus is growing faster than Augusta due to BRAC, Aflac, and Kia. And yes, the amount of construction going on in Columbus, Macon, and Savannah can compare to Augusta. By the way, Columbus probably has regained its spot as #2 in population. Don't forget, the Columbus area is creating over 20,000 new jobs in the next 5 years from BRAC, Kia, Aflac, and all of the other support industries that come along with population growth.

[g-man430]

Originally Posted by ATLCOL1

First off, who cares about Greenville, SC. Secondly, Augusta will leave no other 2nd tier city behind. For population growth, Columbus will beat out all 2nd tier cities over the next few years. As for retail growth, it seems as if Macon is leading there. Augusta is losing population.

Greenville, Charleston, and Columbia left Augusta in the dust.

[joeyrun]

Originally Posted by g-man430

Greenville, Charleston, and Columbia left Augusta in the dust.

Those cities are ahead but not leaving in the dust. I haven't been to Charleston and Greenville in a couple years. So I can't talk about the amount of construction going on. But Columbia is only a hour away from Augusta. In the next 5-6 years Augusta will past these cities. I don't think you understand how much construction is going on. And planned for the city and metro area. In 2010 its predicted Augusta will gained 75,000 to 100,000 jobs.

[joeyrun]

Originally Posted by ATLCOL1

Depends on where you drive in Columbus. Majority of the growth in Columbus is off of the freeways so it is not visible from a person passing thru. Metro Columbus is growing faster than Augusta due to BRAC, Aflac, and Kia. And yes, the amount of construction going on in Columbus, Macon, and Savannah can compare to Augusta. By the way, Columbus probably has regained its spot as #2 in population. Don't forget, the Columbus area is creating over 20,000 new jobs in the next 5 years from BRAC, Kia, Aflac, and all of the other support industries that come along with population growth.

You guys from columbus have been talking about brac for about 3 to 4 years now. You guys also have kept saying for the last 3-4 years columbus will pass augusta in city population. You can have the city population. Our metro is more than twice the size as columbus. Even columbus CSA is much smaller than augusta metro area. Is the military the only way columbus can gained new residents. And only 20,000 new jobs in 5 years. ADP, T-Mobile, Teleperformace, Augusta Regional Terminal and National Security Agency are 10,000 jobs by their self. Columbus doesn't even have three counties in its metro area yet. That have atleast 100,000 people like augusta. Do you really want to compare our third biggest county. Columbia with a population of about 112,000. The fastest grwing county outside of metro atlanta. Against your third biggest county. You have to be kidding. To think metro columbus is growing faster than metro augusta. NSA is a billion dollar project going on in augusta. Does columbus have a billion dollar project under construction?

[g-man430]

Originally Posted by joeyrun

Those cities are ahead but not leaving in the dust. I haven't been to Charleston and Greenville in a couple years. So I can't talk about the amount of construction going on. But Columbia is only a hour away from Augusta. In the next 5-6 years Augusta will past these cities. I don't think you understand how much construction is going on. And planned for the city and metro area. In 2010 its predicted Augusta will gained 75,000 to 100,000 jobs.

Did you just say Augusta is going to pass Greenville, Columbia, and Charleston in the next few years? LOL. Don't make me laugh. Maybe it's time you took a trip up here and look at all of the stuff getting built.

[JLA]

Originally Posted by joeyrun

You guys from columbus have been talking about brac for about 3 to 4 years now. You guys also have kept saying for the last 3-4 years columbus will pass augusta in city population. You can have the city population. Our metro is more than twice the size as columbus. Even columbus CSA is much smaller than augusta metro area. Is the military the only way columbus can gained new residents. And only 20,000 new jobs in 5 years. ADP, T-Mobile, Teleperformace, Augusta Regional Terminal and National Security Agency are 10,000 jobs by their self. Columbus doesn't even have three counties in its metro area yet. That have atleast 100,000 people like augusta. Do you really want to compare our third biggest county. Columbia with a population of about 112,000. The fastest grwing county outside of metro atlanta. Against your third biggest county. You have to be kidding. To think metro columbus is growing faster than metro augusta. NSA is a billion dollar project going on in augusta. Does columbus have a billion dollar project under construction?

Actually Columbus does not have a billion dollar project, it has a $3.2 billion project going on, we just prefer not to brag about it. But for your viewing pleasure here you go.

http://www.smartgrowthonlineaudio.org/np2007/309e.pdf

Regular Construction: $1.2 Billion
BRAC Related Construction: $481.4 Million
Additional BRAC Construction $1.5 Billion
Grand Total: $3.2 Billion.

So, you are absolutely correct we do not have a Billion dollar project going on at the present time, we have at least a $3.2 Billion one going on and that's not counting I-185, KIA, AFLAC, PCI, Cessna, Sun Fresh, The National Infantry Museum, Civil War Naval Museum or any other projects that are going on Downtown, South Side, Midtown, North Side, East side, Harris, Lee, Russel or Chambers counties.

[ATLCOL1]

Originally Posted by JLA

Actually Columbus does not have a billion dollar project, it has a $3.2 billion project going on, we just prefer not to brag about it. But for your viewing pleasure here you go.

http://www.smartgrowthonlineaudio.org/np2007/309e.pdf

Regular Construction: $1.2 Billion
BRAC Related Construction: $481.4 Million
Additional BRAC Construction $1.5 Billion
Grand Total: $3.2 Billion.

So, you are absolutely correct we do not have a Billion dollar project going on at the present time, we have at least a $3.2 Billion one going on and that's not counting I-185, KIA, AFLAC, PCI, Cessna, Sun Fresh, The National Infantry Museum, Civil War Naval Museum or any other projects that are going on Downtown, South Side, Midtown, North Side, East side, Harris, Lee, Russel or Chambers counties.

Well said!

[joeyrun]

Originally Posted by JLA

Actually Columbus does not have a billion dollar project, it has a $3.2 billion project going on, we just prefer not to brag about it. But for your viewing pleasure here you go.

http://www.smartgrowthonlineaudio.org/np2007/309e.pdf

Regular Construction: $1.2 Billion
BRAC Related Construction: $481.4 Million
Additional BRAC Construction $1.5 Billion
Grand Total: $3.2 Billion.

So, you are absolutely correct we do not have a Billion dollar project going on at the present time, we have at least a $3.2 Billion one going on and that's not counting I-185, KIA, AFLAC, PCI, Cessna, Sun Fresh, The National Infantry Museum, Civil War Naval Museum or any other projects that are going on Downtown, South Side, Midtown, North Side, East side, Harris, Lee, Russel or Chambers counties.

My point was you don't have a billon dollars going towards one single project like augusta has. 3.2 billion is good Im happy for Columbus growth. But that's still nowehere near Augusta. And 75% of our major construction is happening in the city not in the suburbs and FT. Gordon.

[joeyrun]

The KIA plant is going in lagrange not columbus. Evans, Martinez or Aiken would never add more jobs than Augusta. What's happening in Columbus is what happen in Augusta about 5 years ago. The growth starts heading into the suburbs. Look how phenix city is growing in metro Columbus. Aiken and Columbia Augusta's suburban counties the growth has slowed significantly since the booming 5 years ago. Augusta major construction is happening in the city and downtown.


Im sure Columbus is growing and will contiune too. But its not growing faster than Augusta.


Your metro area vs ours the numbers don't match up. Exactly what county in Columbus is growing so much faster than one in Augusta. Three most populated counties in each metro area.

Augusta- Richmond 200,000 Aiken 160,000 Columbia 112,000


Columbus-Muscogee 190,000 Lee 130,000 Russell 50,000

[motonenterprises]

Originally Posted by joeyrun

Those cities are ahead but not leaving in the dust. I haven't been to Charleston and Greenville in a couple years. So I can't talk about the amount of construction going on. But Columbia is only a hour away from Augusta. In the next 5-6 years Augusta will past these cities. I don't think you understand how much construction is going on. And planned for the city and metro area. In 2010 its predicted Augusta will gained 75,000 to 100,000 jobs.

Joey this is far from the truth looking at the growth in population. I don't know about the other areas, but Greenville County alone grew by 20k+ in one year.