Which secondary city in Georgia will mirror Greenvilles success? (Macon: travel, lease)

[hotlava]

Originally Posted by yerocal

No sometimes larger can be bad but the statements in which where made, in the eyes of people who are looking in from outside would have the idea that Augusta and Savannah are tremendously larger which that is not true. The only reason that Augusta has acquired so much area is because it totally consolidated with Richmond County and then its pop was less than a 100,000 before the consolidation. As for Greenville is not really larger that Georgia’s 2nd tier cities, after doing some research Greenville population in 2006 stands at 57,000 with a metro of 600,000 and a city limits of 26.1 sq mi. That means statistically it should not be compared with Macon or Augusta, but with city like Athens, Albany or even Warner Robins which is has a pop of 56,000 and is 22.1 sq mi., if you want to be technical.
Macon is 97,000 with after the annex of the city limits in July it will bring the pop back to over 100,000. Macon Metro stands at about 400,000 and it serves as an Economic hub for 22 counties MGA which combine pop is 650,000… Augusta-Richmond stands at 189,000 and metro of 530,000.

References:
Greenville, South Carolina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
South Carolina Bigger Cities (over 6000 residents) - Real Estate, Housing, Schools, Residents, Crime, Pollution, Demographics and More
uscensus.com

Augusta city population is 197,342 as of 2007. The metro area is 530,000 people. And augusta is not totally consolidated with richmond county. Southern richmond county has two seperate cities and 2 seperate areas. That have thier own government, fire station, and police force. The two cities are hepzibah & blythe. Gracewood and McBean are the two seperate areas. Blythe city has about a 1,000 people. Hepzibah city has about 8 or 9,000 people. Area code 30815 which is hepzibah has bout 40,000 people living in it. 30815 has areas that are not included in the city limits but have a hepzibah address

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by mrcolumbusga

Macon's metro is not 400,000 either.

Macon Metro is 400,000, but on some sites they divide W.Robins and Macon..

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by hotlava

Augusta city population is 197,342 as of 2007. The metro area is 530,000 people. And augusta is not totally consolidated with richmond county. Southern richmond county has two seperate cities and 2 seperate areas. That have thier own government, fire station, and police force. The two cities are hepzibah & blythe. Gracewood and McBean are the two seperate areas. Blythe city has about a 1,000 people. Hepzibah city has about 8 or 9,000 people. Area code 30815 which is hepzibah has bout 40,000 people living in it. 30815 has areas that are not included in the city limits but have a hepzibah address

Thats besides the point, majority of the county is consolidated with Augusta which has given it a lead on area and a boost in pop. If Macon decided to consolidate which is currently in discussion,would bring Macon's pop to about 160,000 or more and potions of Macon also extends in Jones county as well.

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by mrcolumbusga

MSA populations give you the true picture of a city's population. Most cities populations exapnd beyond their city limits which is why MSA populations are generally included because they give you a better indication of what's going on in the city. That's why when people give you the population of Atlanta, they tell you over 4 million. No 4 million people don't actually live in the city limits. Atlanta is considered one of the largest cities in the country. Yet if you went by city limits, it wouldn't be.

That's why Greenville is considered larger than the second tier Georgia metros.

Yes in population, but not by size......

[PJA]

The size of it's metro area is probably larger than all of the second tier Georgia metros too.

And the official metro population of Macon is 229,846.

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by PJA

The size of it's metro area is probably larger than all of the second tier Georgia metros too.

And the official metro population of Macon is 229,846.

thats because Warner Robins/Houston county is left out..

Macon Metro is the following counties which also have strong economical ties to the city of Macon.
Bibb- 153,887
Crawford-12,495
Peach-23,668
Monroe-21,757
Houston-110,765
Jones-23,639
Twiggs-10,590
Wilkson-10,220
Baldwin-44,700
Laurens-44,874

Total: 456,595

[PJA]

All of those counties are not a part of the msa. If you're going to add all of those counties then the other msa's have other counties that have strong economical ties to them as well.

[DisgustaSucks]

there are not 1,000 people in Blythe.. and the population of Hephzibah is more in the neighborhood of 2500 ppl. GRacewood and McBean are not separate municipalities but rather part of the consolidated Augusta-Richmond County..

[yerocal]

Originally Posted by PJA

All of those counties are not a part of the msa. If you're going to add all of those counties then the other msa's have other counties that have strong economical ties to them as well.

Question, it seems you are an expert in MSA information what is the official listing for Macon?

[ATLCOL1]

Originally Posted by yerocal

thats because Warner Robins/Houston county is left out..

Macon Metro is the following counties which also have strong economical ties to the city of Macon.
Bibb- 153,887
Crawford-12,495
Peach-23,668
Monroe-21,757
Houston-110,765
Jones-23,639
Twiggs-10,590
Wilkson-10,220
Baldwin-44,700
Laurens-44,874

Total: 456,595

Counties in an MSA and counties with strong economic ties are not the same thing. Lee County, Alabama (Auburn and Opelika) is right across the river from Columbus, yet it is its own metro even though the 3 cities have strong economic ties. This will change in 2010 (hopefully) when Lee is brought into the Columbus MSA.