Macon or Columbus? (working in Americus) (Atlanta, Albany: insurance, mall, stats)

[ATLCOL1]

Originally Posted by saharaga

Ok, so it's 4 loft developments. That does not change my opinion. 4 is not "many" and the practice of development in downtown Columbus so far has been to restore the facade of the building to what it looked like originally. Look at the Marriott. From what the tour guide told us, the Marriott was built to look on the outside exactly like the building that was there originally. This is the way that lofts are typically built anyway...rebuilding the inside and restoring the outside...so these developments are doing little to change the look of downtown. I absolutely agree that they are developing downtown Columbus and trying really hard to make it more "trendy" but I disagree that these projects make it more "urban" Urban has a certain feel and a certain energy that downtown Columbus still lacks.

How can it not feel urban when more people are living and shopping downtown? That is what "urban" is all about. Students going to class downtown, stopping in stores, coffee shops, etc. People living in the lofts on the river walking to dinner or a show at the Springer Opera House or the RiverCenter. Companies like TSYS and Synovus building their HQ's downtown. This all creates a urban feel that cities are working toward bringing back. Columbus is doing a great job at it.

[ATLCOL1]

Originally Posted by afonega1

All the stuff you mentioned is spread out.There are very few "cafe'",coffee shops,bookstores,other shops at street level next to each other that go for even a city block in Columbus.Columbus has more business of the forturne 1000 even for a city of its size is impressive,Aflac is the very tall building in town surrounded by nothing else of major note. Do me a favor,take a picture of each cities skyline , there is no way you can say`Columbus is bigger.A loft developement is nothing.They have been working in downtown Mcon and have really spruced up that area.You really are biased

What stuff is spread out? Everything that was mentioned is in downtown Columbus. Columbus has Fortune 500 and Fortune 1000 companies. A few buildings don't make a city urban. You Macon people are obsessed with the few buildings you have. If you want to compare, the buildings that Columbus has are taller than anything Macon has, but WHO CARES!!!

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by ATLCOL1

What stuff is spread out? Everything that was mentioned is in downtown Columbus. Columbus has Fortune 500 and Fortune 1000 companies. A few buildings don't make a city urban. You Macon people are obsessed with the few buildings you have. If you want to compare, the buildings that Columbus has are taller than anything Macon has, but WHO CARES!!!

WOW!!I tell you what,show us some pics of downtown Columbus.As it is almost no one on this thread agrees with you But were all hating on Columbus?Why?I like Columbus.I like Macon.I though of moving to Columbus and Macon.I ruled out Columbus for the very thing we are discussing.Columbus has the Aflac building not much else.

[ATLCOL1]

Originally Posted by afonega1

WOW!!I tell you what,show us some pics of downtown Columbus.As it is almost no one on this thread agrees with you But were all hating on Columbus?Why?I like Columbus.I like Macon.I though of moving to Columbus and Macon.I ruled out Columbus for the very thing we are discussing.Columbus has the Aflac building not much else.

So you based your decision on not moving to Columbus because it has one building? Actually, Columbus has another building, the Government Center which is still taller than anything Macon has. WHO CARES anyways! People move to cities for quality of life, jobs, etc., not which city feels more "urban". This is silly....

[saharaga]

Originally Posted by ATLCOL1

How can it not feel urban when more people are living and shopping downtown?

So this is your only criteria for something to be seen as "urban"? I associate urban with a faster pace and a more trendy feel. Columbus still has a very slow and country feel to it, IMO. It takes a lot more than the # of people and shopping venues to make a place urban in my view. You work/live in Atlanta most of the week, don't you? Surely, you see the differences. The government defines urban by population only. We all know what a beacon of wisdom the government is. Any city with a population of over 50,000 is classified as urban by the government. So, in that respect Columbus is considered urban. However, compared to Atlanta, or even San Antonio-where the OP is moving from, I do not view Columbus as a typical "urban" city. Columbus, GA is #129 on the list of urban cities ranked by population size...and they combined Columbus' population with nearby Alabama cities to get that ranking. Macon is #203 but it has to stand on its own population count. San Antonio is ranked #30. Not even close!

[saharaga]

Originally Posted by ATLCOL1

So you based your decision on not moving to Columbus because it has one building? Actually, Columbus has another building, the Government Center which is still taller than anything Macon has. WHO CARES anyways! People move to cities for quality of life, jobs, etc., not which city feels more "urban". This is silly....

I think what you're failing to consider is where the OP is moving from. When we first moved to Georgia, we lived in Hinesville which is the military town outside Ft. Stewart. If we had moved to Columbus right after living there, my opinion of Columbus would likely be different. But, my husband ETSed from the military and we moved to Atlanta. We've lived in the Atlanta area for 9 of the 13 years that we have been in Georgia. Columbus simply cannot compare to our experience in metro Atlanta. The OP may have the same feelings after moving here from a large city like San Antonio. She can certainly find things in Columbus that she can find anywhere else but I believe that she will also need to manage her expectations to be truly happy here.

[saharaga]

Originally Posted by afonega1

WOW!!I tell you what,show us some pics of downtown Columbus.

He doesn't have to...others have already posted pics of Columbus online...

Columbus Georgia & Fort Benning pictures from georgia photos on webshots
Columbus Photos - VirtualTourist.com
http://www.city-data.com/album/album...s-Georgia.html

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by saharaga

So this is your only criteria for something to be seen as "urban"? I associate urban with a faster pace and a more trendy feel. Columbus still has a very slow and country feel to it, IMO. It takes a lot more than the # of people and shopping venues to make a place urban in my view. You work/live in Atlanta most of the week, don't you? Surely, you see the differences. The government defines urban by population only. We all know what a beacon of wisdom the government is. Any city with a population of over 50,000 is classified as urban by the government. So, in that respect Columbus is considered urban. However, compared to Atlanta, or even San Antonio-where the OP is moving from, I do not view Columbus as a typical "urban" city. Columbus, GA is #129 on the list of urban cities ranked by population size...and they combined Columbus' population with nearby Alabama cities to get that ranking. Macon is #203 but it has to stand on its own population count. San Antonio is ranked #30. Not even close!

Its pointless im through.He's got a concrete reinforced wall with steel sheets up and i nor anyone else cannot tell him different.Everyone has there opinion but when is not shared by to many you should at least listen objectively to reason!!

[ATLCOL1]

Originally Posted by saharaga

So this is your only criteria for something to be seen as "urban"? I associate urban with a faster pace and a more trendy feel. Columbus still has a very slow and country feel to it, IMO. It takes a lot more than the # of people and shopping venues to make a place urban in my view. You work/live in Atlanta most of the week, don't you? Surely, you see the differences. The government defines urban by population only. We all know what a beacon of wisdom the government is. Any city with a population of over 50,000 is classified as urban by the government. So, in that respect Columbus is considered urban. However, compared to Atlanta, or even San Antonio-where the OP is moving from, I do not view Columbus as a typical "urban" city. Columbus, GA is #129 on the list of urban cities ranked by population size...and they combined Columbus' population with nearby Alabama cities to get that ranking. Macon is #203 but it has to stand on its own population count. San Antonio is ranked #30. Not even close!

You can't compare Columbus' urbanity to Atlanta's just like you can't compare Atlanta to New York. Country feel??? That makes no sense at all LMAO.

[ATLCOL1]

Originally Posted by afonega1

Its pointless im through.He's got a concrete reinforced wall with steel sheets up and i nor anyone else cannot tell him different.Everyone has there opinion but when is not shared by to many you should at least listen objectively to reason!!

Ok, what are you comparing Columbus to then?

I support my views with facts and evidence.