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Old 04-14-2010, 12:26 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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^EXCELLENT point atlantagreg, and I've often wondered the same thing. Why can't they use the emblem of the actual Confederacy which is a much less divisive symbol?

It's also interesting that like WV, my native SC still uses its original state flag which has no Confederate symbolism whatsoever, and few other states can be said to be as dedicated to the cause of the CSA as SC. As a matter of fact, during the war a change in the color of the background of the flag from blue to red was proposed as a nod to the Confederacy, but that was shot down.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Washington
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Default Why Georgia has had so many flags and state capitals

The Georgia legislature is as apt to react or respond to an imiagined as a real one. Thus , Georgia has had 4 state capitals ( and except for an epidemic would have had five !) and numerous flags. Some individual legeslators have considerable influence over laws that do not contribute to the general welfare of the state. Almost every county has some special exemption to the Ga property tax code or an exemption that favors the industry of the home constituents. The only other thing that seems to motivate them is a death in an otherwise unregulated activity.
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Old 03-05-2015, 05:24 AM
 
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..but the Georgia state flag is still indeed a Confederate flag and the official flag of the Confederate States as well.
Bell., Great point. It's an irony that I find funny.
The 'Battle Flag' Georgia state flag was altered bcuz the battle flag imagery is considered 'offensive' to cultural Marxists. So to appease cultural Marxists & NAACP sensibilities, the state of Georgia replaced that 'offensive' version, with simply a different Confederate flag model (the later 12-star Stars & Bars). The Stars & Bars are not considered offensive, bcuz most critics/haters of the Confederacy have limited historical knowledge and don't recognize what it is. They go nuts when they see a Battle flag, but are virtually silent about the Confederate Stars&Bars, and the perceived sins of the American flag, which Confederates all flew for generations prior. They've been emotionally programmed to singularly despise the Battle Flag, but probably conduct very little independent study of the CSA beyond that.


And here's the acceptable, current Georgia state flag, see a resemblance:


I had to use this forum, bcuz many of the other Confederate flag forums have been locked due to vitriol. Today is Confederate Flag Day, honoring the March 4th adoption of the original Stars & Bars. All the locked City Data threads, confirm in my mind (at least),.. the ongoing, passionate demonization of the Confederate Battle flag.. Which symbolizes nothing more, or less, honorable than the American flag in my view. peace

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Old 03-08-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: City of Atlanta
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They're both terrible. The battle flag and the current GA flag. Why does there have to be a day honoring the Confederate flag? Why can't we just recognize the historical significance of the Confederacy within the larger history of the United States without celebrating or honoring it? It happened, it was defeated, thankfully, and now we can study it for posterity. It was a country founded on crushing human rights violations and needs not be honored.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta & Savannah, GA - Corpus Christi, TX
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They're both terrible. The battle flag and the current GA flag. Why does there have to be a day honoring the Confederate flag? Why can't we just recognize the historical significance of the Confederacy within the larger history of the United States without celebrating or honoring it? It happened, it was defeated, thankfully, and now we can study it for posterity. It was a country founded on crushing human rights violations and needs not be honored.
I completely agree.
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Old 03-14-2015, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Bell., Great point. It's an irony that I find funny.
The 'Battle Flag' Georgia state flag was altered bcuz the battle flag imagery is considered 'offensive' to cultural Marxists. So to appease cultural Marxists & NAACP sensibilities, the state of Georgia replaced that 'offensive' version, with simply a different Confederate flag model (the later 12-star Stars & Bars). The Stars & Bars are not considered offensive, bcuz most critics/haters of the Confederacy have limited historical knowledge and don't recognize what it is. They go nuts when they see a Battle flag, but are virtually silent about the Confederate Stars&Bars, and the perceived sins of the American flag, which Confederates all flew for generations prior. They've been emotionally programmed to singularly despise the Battle Flag, but probably conduct very little independent study of the CSA beyond that.


And here's the acceptable, current Georgia state flag, see a resemblance:


I had to use this forum, bcuz many of the other Confederate flag forums have been locked due to vitriol. Today is Confederate Flag Day, honoring the March 4th adoption of the original Stars & Bars. All the locked City Data threads, confirm in my mind (at least),.. the ongoing, passionate demonization of the Confederate Battle flag.. Which symbolizes nothing more, or less, honorable than the American flag in my view. peace
The Swastika was once considered an "honorable symbol" as well ... until the Nazi's corrupted it and made it an emblem of hate. The Confederate Battle Flag was corrupted by White Supremacist who used it as their marching banner during 100 years of institutional racism, violence and black oppression.
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Old 03-15-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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They're both terrible. The battle flag and the current GA flag. Why does there have to be a day honoring the Confederate flag? Why can't we just recognize the historical significance of the Confederacy within the larger history of the United States without celebrating or honoring it? It happened, it was defeated, thankfully, and now we can study it for posterity. It was a country founded on crushing human rights violations and needs not be honored.
Pemgin, I submit to u for argument's sake.. Why should we honor the American flag (?) I mean, Border State slaveholders fought in the Union Army, no (?)
There was little unique to the Confederacy, that didn't exist in the United States. The secessionists were formerly living their lives as Americans prior to the war. Do you suggest that their terrible human rights record does not fall on their (often) hundreds of years in America, & the colonies prior; but solely onto their 4 years as Confederates, and by extension their 'terrible' flag (?)

I stated in my first post, the Confederate flag is selectively demonized by cultural-Marxists, & their deracinated pupils.. and right on cue, come 3 responses to my post, selectively demonizing the Confederacy, including the predictable talking points, comparing the Confederacy to Nazis, etc. While the same moralizing magnifying glass is not applied to the American flag. My opinion, this is about deracinated White Americans conspicuously working to place all of America's racial sins onto the scapegoat of the Confederate flag. The thinking of the nave White 'Liberal' (who is often deeply intolerant of opposing views) is- if we prove how much we hate the Confederate flag, America can usher in it's wonderful, post-racial phase.

To answer your question, I believe the Rebel flag should be defended for many reasons.. but specifically bcuz I think the eventual fate of the American flag is now ironically hinging on the defense of the Confederate flag. Cultural-Marxists and anti-White bigots, will eventually seek to remove Old Glory as well.. rightfully pointing out that the two flags are sides of the same cultural coin. As patriotic Americans give up honoring one symbol of their heritage, then the dominoes proceed to fall faster for every other cultural pre-"post-racial" symbol. No cultural symbol embodies moral perfection, but that doesn't mean they should be completely surrendered, when you surrender your culture, you surrender yourself in the process. Sorry for the long post, but..
peace.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Oh god...not this AGAIN...
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Old 03-16-2015, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Dear heavens. When will this nuttiness ever end???
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Old 03-16-2015, 09:36 PM
 
Location: City of Atlanta
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Pemgin, I submit to u for argument's sake.. Why should we honor the American flag (?) I mean, Border State slaveholders fought in the Union Army, no (?)
There was little unique to the Confederacy, that didn't exist in the United States. The secessionists were formerly living their lives as Americans prior to the war. Do you suggest that their terrible human rights record does not fall on their (often) hundreds of years in America, & the colonies prior; but solely onto their 4 years as Confederates, and by extension their 'terrible' flag (?)

I stated in my first post, the Confederate flag is selectively demonized by cultural-Marxists, & their deracinated pupils.. and right on cue, come 3 responses to my post, selectively demonizing the Confederacy, including the predictable talking points, comparing the Confederacy to Nazis, etc. While the same moralizing magnifying glass is not applied to the American flag. My opinion, this is about deracinated White Americans conspicuously working to place all of America's racial sins onto the scapegoat of the Confederate flag. The thinking of the nave White 'Liberal' (who is often deeply intolerant of opposing views) is- if we prove how much we hate the Confederate flag, America can usher in it's wonderful, post-racial phase.

To answer your question, I believe the Rebel flag should be defended for many reasons.. but specifically bcuz I think the eventual fate of the American flag is now ironically hinging on the defense of the Confederate flag. Cultural-Marxists and anti-White bigots, will eventually seek to remove Old Glory as well.. rightfully pointing out that the two flags are sides of the same cultural coin. As patriotic Americans give up honoring one symbol of their heritage, then the dominoes proceed to fall faster for every other cultural pre-"post-racial" symbol. No cultural symbol embodies moral perfection, but that doesn't mean they should be completely surrendered, when you surrender your culture, you surrender yourself in the process. Sorry for the long post, but..
peace.
For what it's worth, I think the United States has a terrible human rights record, too, and I'm not going to defend it. I agree with you that the Confederate flag should be defended, if only for preserving freedom of speech. However, if we're talking about honoring it, I cannot abide that.
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