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03-16-2009, 01:49 PM
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It should be noted that metro Atlanta actually pays more in state taxes then they receive back.. much of the rest of the state.. including many of the second tier cities actually do get subsidized by the state... meaning they get more back from the state then they pay in. Without the economic engine of Atlanta... many of these other cities in Georgia would actually be worse off... think more of say Mississippi.
The government does NOT create wealth and does not get decide where it will reside.
Why don't these second tier cities market themselves better.. like Chattanooga did. I have never seen any ads, except for Savannah, running in the Atlanta market for Augusta, Macon, or Columbus.. touting why it would be a good place for businesses to locate to. Civic boosters in Atlanta and the surrounding region marketed that area... not so much the state of Georgia. Metro Atlanta cannot even get very badly needed commuter rail...because of objections from lawmakers in other parts of the state.
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03-16-2009, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lilmusket
Metro Atlanta cannot even get very badly needed commuter rail...because of objections from lawmakers in other parts of the state.
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I wonder why? Because most of money is always invested in metro Atlanta and those lawmaker would much rather to see it invested else...... It some of Atlanta growth was deviated then Atlanta wouldn't have that transportation problem. 
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03-16-2009, 02:43 PM
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Sorry homeslice...YOU made the claim...so YOU have to back it up! It's up to you to provide the proof, not us.
So if you cannot do that, then man up & admit you lied.
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Back up what claim? I used Shreveport as example. First of all This discussion is about Ga's 2nd tier cities not Shreveport, so i' not wasting my time to go back track some info to satisfiy your curiosity... If you want to know that bad you research it, if not let it GO!!!!  Because i can care less what retailers are located in LA, I'm concerned about GA hopefully getting them here other than in metro Atlanta.....
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03-16-2009, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NewtownMacon
Back up what claim? I used Shreveport as example. First of all This discussion is about Ga's 2nd tier cities not Shreveport, so i' not wasting my time to go back track some info to satisfiy your curiosity... If you want to know that bad you research it, if not let it GO!!!!  Because i can care less what retailers are located in LA, I'm concerned about GA hopefully getting them here other than in metro Atlanta.....
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You stated that Shreveport had certain high end reatilers to prove some odd point. You were asked to produce proof, you've failed.
You have no C-D "cred" now. I'm sure a baby somewhere in Macon weeps for you.....
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03-16-2009, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gaflsc
You stated that Shreveport had certain high end reatilers to prove some odd point. You were asked to produce proof, you've failed.
You have no C-D "cred" now. I'm sure a baby somewhere in Macon weeps for you.....
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 Do you think that I really care if you or anyone else on this forum give me credit,  i have no point to prove because i'm not really concern about Shreveport, La or what is has......
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03-16-2009, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NewtownMacon
I wonder why? Because most of money is always invested in metro Atlanta and those lawmaker would much rather to see it invested else...... It some of Atlanta growth was deviated then Atlanta wouldn't have that transportation problem. 
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No. We have been sitting on almost $100 million of Federal $$$ for several years now. This FEDERAL money has been earmarked to start the Lovejoy/Griffin/Macon commuter rail line. Sonny-Bubba has been sitting on this money, refusing to budge or authorize the start-up of the line.
And I guess you are now just simply ignoring the previous posts, because you continue to insist "most of the money is always invested in metro Atlanta." Wrong again. We contribute way more to the State than receive in return.
It would seem that your solution to the congestion problems of the cash register for the State (Atlanta) would be to "punish" Atlanta for her success, and BY LAW redirect all new PRIVATE investment to the second-tier cities of Georgia.
Wow. Just, wow.
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03-16-2009, 03:30 PM
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Greenville becoming progressive?
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 Do you think that I really care if you or anyone else on this forum give me credit,  i have no point to prove because i'm not really concern about Shreveport, La or what is has......
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Actually, you do have a point to prove. You said there was a Norstrom and Neiman Marcus in Shreveport. Now prove it.
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03-16-2009, 03:33 PM
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Yes that would be nice, i was reading up on some info about Shreveport, La, And how the casinos has help that city gain a lot of growth and present of dining/shopping/entertainment amenities usually found in much larger cities.
Shreveport city's pop is about 200,000 with metro pop of about 375,000.... but was able to land high end retailers like Neiman Marcus, Nordstrom and etc., due to the tourism produced by the casinos and etc.
So if Macon could gain a few developments like casinos, a zoo, theme park or something that would increase tourists and growth, I'm all for it.
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You seem to have a short-term memory loss going on here.
Again, YOU were the one that stated the above.
When you make claims that turn out to be false, it is YOU that have the burden to do one of two things:
1. Graciously admit that you were wrong.
2. Admit you got carried away, and apologize for fabricating falsehoods.
Either way, suck it up and admit it, or live with the fact that absolutely everything you state going forward will be either ignored, or noone here will ever believe anything you ever post again.
At any rate, the burden of proof is on nobody but YOU.
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03-16-2009, 03:37 PM
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Face it, newtown macon:

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03-16-2009, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by johnatl
You seem to have a short-term memory loss going on here.
Again, YOU were the one that stated the above.
When you make claims that turn out to be false, it is YOU that have the burden to do one of two things:
1. Graciously admit that you were wrong.
2. Admit you got carried away, and apologize for fabricating falsehoods.
Either way, suck it up and admit it, or live with the fact that absolutely everything you state going forward will be either ignored, or noone here will ever believe anything you ever post again.
At any rate, the burden of proof is on nobody but YOU.
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