Columbus VS Macon (club, rail, yard)

[lilmusket]

Originally Posted by Akhenaton06

The downtown areas of both Columbus and Macon look eerily similar, I'll tell you that. Downtown Augusta doesn't look too different, either. I don't know what's the deal with those extra-wide boulevards with sidewalks and fountains going down the middle. Must be a Georgia thing, LOL.

Yeah those extra wide boulevards actually stimy downtown vitality and pedestrian activity. It's better to have more narrow streets.. they are more pedestrian friendly...plus they create a more intimate setting more conducive to al fresco dining and street festivals.

[NewtownMacon]

Originally Posted by Akhenaton06

The downtown areas of both Columbus and Macon look eerily similar, I'll tell you that. Downtown Augusta doesn't look too different, either. I don't know what's the deal with those extra-wide boulevards with sidewalks and fountains going down the middle. Must be a Georgia thing, LOL.

DT Columbus and Macon are not that similar to me...... DT Macon and Augusta seems more similar.

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Savannah

[lilmusket]

notice how dense downtown savannah is. you don't see lots of open parking lots like you do in downtown Augusta, Macon and Columbus. Density is really the key to downtown vibrancy. having a couple of buildings over 15 stories doesn't mean a thing if the majority of downtown has gaps and voids like parking lots and empty lots

[NewtownMacon]

Originally Posted by lilmusket

notice how dense downtown savannah is. you don't see lots of open parking lots like you do in downtown Augusta, Macon and Columbus. Density is really the key to downtown vibrancy. having a couple of buildings over 15 stories doesn't mean a thing if the majority of downtown has gaps and voids like parking lots and empty lots

Well density is great, when it doesn't cause problems.....From the pics it tells you something, if Savannah has a lot less parking and more density, that means that parking could be or is a huge issue for DT and serves no positive purpose but Chaos.....

[lilmusket]

Originally Posted by NewtownMacon

Well density is great, when it doesn't cause problems.....From the pics it tells you something, if Savannah has a lot less parking and more density, that means that parking could be or is a huge issue for DT and serves no positive purpose but Chaos.....

Doesn't matter if you have tons of parking if the spaces are empty. I can think of very few vibrant city centers that are full of open air parking lots. Of the four cities in the photos, Savannah has by far the most vibrant and busy downtown... and having to hunt a little longer for a parking space is a price I'm willing to pay for a vibrant downtown.

[NewtownMacon]

Originally Posted by lilmusket

Doesn't matter if you have tons of parking if the spaces are empty. I can think of very few vibrant city centers that are full of open air parking lots. Of the four cities in the photos, Savannah has by far the most vibrant and busy downtown... and having to hunt a little longer for a parking space is a price I'm willing to pay for a vibrant downtown.

Well thats the first i heard of that.. because most people hate cities with parking problems.....

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by lilmusket

Yeah those extra wide boulevards actually stimy downtown vitality and pedestrian activity. It's better to have more narrow streets.. they are more pedestrian friendly...plus they create a more intimate setting more conducive to al fresco dining and street festivals.

Precisely, I agree. But the upside is that as the city grows and downtown becomes busier, you can extend the sidewalks, add bike lanes, possibly dedicated bus lanes, still have a planted median--all without significantly hindering vehicle capacity. But as of right now, I bet the linear parks within the medians are hardly used.

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by NewtownMacon

Well thats the first i heard of that.. because most people hate cities with parking problems.....

Not really. They just hate the fact that the city has a parking problem. But most cities like that have convenient mass transit options anyway. Washington, DC is perfect example here.

And I doubt if parking is really that hard in Savannah if you're willing to park in a garage and/or walk a few blocks. It tends to be that way in Charleston so I'm guessing that it isn't too different in Savannah.

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by NewtownMacon

DT Columbus and Macon are not that similar to me...... DT Macon and Augusta seems more similar.

Columbus



Augusta



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Savannah

Actually, judging from those aerials, Augusta and Columbus seem more similar, at least in terms of layout with downtown bordering a river.

[NewtownMacon]

Originally Posted by Akhenaton06

Actually, judging from those aerials, Augusta and Columbus seem more similar, at least in terms of layout with downtown bordering a river.

Well It you had any knowledge of the Ga's 2nd tier cities, you would know that all of their Downtown areas borders a river.