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04-15-2009, 12:49 PM
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HERE is a thread from NJ read this:
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03-19-2009, 11:22 AM
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Here is info regarding that "EB" trigger ( after tier 2) that NJ qualified for
Hello All,
I hate to bringing any negative news here but I spoke directly with the state yesterday. ( I asked them this while inquiring about something else since its so hard to get them on the line, i hit them with every question I could think of )
Before you all get excited about this "EB" emergency benefit which NJ recently triggered for ( after you exhaust tier 2 ), there are a few facts you should know:
1: yes, New Jersey DID meet the qualifications to trigger it.
2: yes, they DID accept to offer ( states have a choice to use it or not)
but... this is what the state said and it is quoted here. I havent changed a word. this is what they said:
" Not everybody who recieved tier 2 unemployment extension and have exhausted them will qualify for this EB trigger. This special EB program is VERY strict and they will look at each individual claim with a fine tooth comb" all over again. On the claims that were clealy indicated as layoff's, these people will get this EB possibly. Anyone who had a claim that had appeals, depositions, or questionable terms ( person quit but had a good cause, anything debted, etc ) will NOT be offered this benefit or will be looked at very clearly and re-decided. NOBODY who worked at all between thier origional claim date and the time they try to qualify for this EB would be approved. You cannot have worked at all or the claim would be denied. There is clearly not enough funds for this to be given to everyone. Also, different from what the unemployment handbook states, this is an emergency extension so for those who do get these extra weeks, they will be required to provide strict recods of every job attempt made during the extra period. Records will be mandatory and will require that these individuals must accept any work available, even if the job pays significantly less money. For tier 1 and Tier 2, we have been very leanient, with this program it will not come that easy."
This is pretty much word for word what they said. It will not be an automatic thing for sure. Each case will be evaluated ( much like when you filed your origional claim). The bottom line is that IF you get this benefit, plan on having to accept any job offer out there or they will cut you off. in other words, a laid off scientist would have to take a job at Mcdonalds if they start to recieve this benefit or they will cut you off. You cannot be selective to your pay range. you have to take any job. If they conclude that your job search records show you did not look "everywhere" ( low paying jobs ), they will stop paying out the benefit. They said this will not be easy to get.
Im just stating what was said by the state. This is pretty much exactly how it was said, i may be off by a word or 2.
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This part is very interesting, I know people who are filing 1st time UI that have been told that it will take the DOL 6 weeks to process their request for UI, because they are so backed up. If thats the case, how long is it going to take the DOL to process 3rd Tier with a fine tooth comb. Craziness, it sounds like the DOL should be hiring right now.
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04-15-2009, 01:08 PM
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My Husband has exhausted his 2nd tier and has passed his year on regular benefits
he went down to DOL Monday, they told him he's done and not eligible after a year.
However they told him to continue to certify each week, why is he still able to certify
if he's passed his year? unless this 3rd tier of EB benefits are to kick in.... they must
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If initial UI is 20-26 wks., 1st Tier is up to 20wks, and 2rd Tier is up to 13 wks that puts just about everyone who is collecting EUB at 1 yr. If your husband dosen't qualify for 3rd Tier, I don't know who would.
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04-15-2009, 01:39 PM
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Your right the DOL makes it sound like your at your last straw either find a job or we can't help you at this point? It's just all so frustrating!!!
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04-15-2009, 02:42 PM
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Here is some important information that I found in the ARRA that President Obama signed earlier in the year. It is important because it gives each state a way out of paying extended benefits to those of us who have exhausted EUC.
"At the OPTION of a state for any weeks of unemployment beginning after the date of enactment of this section and before January 1 2010 an individuals eligibility period shall for purposes of determining eligibility for extended compensation under state law of such state shall be considered to include any week which begins after the date as of which such individual exhausts all rights to emergency unemployment compensation"
What it is saying is that the state has the option to define eligibilty for Extended Benefits when it pertains to someone who has exhausted EUC.
I have written to several state representatives and asked that they spell out in lay terms exactly what HB581 defines as "eligibilty" Hopefully one will respond soon.
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04-15-2009, 02:44 PM
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Posting N J information on georgia forum does'nt make any sence. Just because N J has to meet those qualification that does not mean georgia has to. So unless it is posted in any forum for georgia, Please do not give us any more to worry about than we already have. Remember there is a Higher Power working for us than the GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF LABOR....
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04-15-2009, 03:04 PM
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If (HB 581) is on the Govenor's desk, shouldn't there be a place to read the entire bill? This is all I could find on it.
A BILL to be entitled an Act to amend Chapter 8 of Title 34 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to employment security, so as to protect the solvency of the Georgia Unemployment Trust Fund by providing incentives to employers to comply with the Employment Security Law; to protect existing jobs and to stimulate job creation; to reduce employer payment requirements for de minimis tax amounts; to establish a credit to employers for hiring unemployment claimants; to provide for the Georgia Works program to assist recipients of unemployment compensation in obtaining new job skill training; to reauthorize certain federal moneys for the administration of Chapter 8 of Title 34; to provide for related matters; to provide for an effective date; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other purposes.
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04-15-2009, 03:34 PM
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here is a link to the bill as it was amended by the Senate and approved by the House
hb581_SCSFA_to_HB_581_9.html
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04-15-2009, 03:51 PM
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Thanks for the link, its gonna take awhile to figure this thing out.
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04-15-2009, 03:53 PM
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Yet another interesting twist to Extended Benefits in Georgia. I read this to say that when the state triggers on, it will take 3 weeks before we can collect. I hope I am wrong. Hopefully we will trigger on as soon as the governor signs the bill. Otherwise it will be July before we can collect if they wait until May 25th to trigger. The bill reads:
(3)(A) 'Extended benefit period' means a period which:
(A)(i) Begins with the third week after a week for which there is a state 'on' indicator
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04-15-2009, 04:23 PM
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I am pretty sure we triggered on when our unemployment rate was above 6 % for three months straight. GA is already triggered on for 20 weeks of benefits with the federal government. GA just had to change the laws to accept the money. That is my understanding anyways.
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