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Old 12-12-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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I think some if you need to re-read the whooole thread. The whole 'disengage' issue has been settled like 2 pages ago. But thanks for the advice! I'll take into consideration...
You're still talking about calling a lawyer.

Cart before the horse.

You are making this far more complicated than it needs to be. I understand it is obviously close and emotional for you, but the courts and police and lawyers aren't going to entertain ROs and C&Ds when you haven't even yet dealt with shutting the door or not answering the phone. Like I said, I have dealt with this directly in a professional manner - when I worked in policing, we received calls like this daily. My basic response was always the same- Did you tell them no further contact? When they contacted you after that, did you hang up/not answer and call the police? Or did you try and talk to them and engage them? The second one? Then don't waste our time and call us when you are serious. Until you are ready to write a statement and charge someone with harassment (and convict them), the law does not have time to referee dysfunctional families.

It would be a shame if you spent $100 or whatever on a consultation with a lawyer to hear the same thing.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:52 PM
 
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Moving is expensive if you're in a rental, VERY expensive if you own your house. And your troubles will simply follow you. If you don't want anything to do with them, then just ignore them, and eventually they will leave you alone. But don't spend thousands of dollars that you can't afford on trying to move away from a problem that will follow you.
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Old 12-12-2013, 03:30 PM
 
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I would:

1. Refuse to engage
2. Set up my home to make harassment more difficult
3. Begin documenting every attempt at contact/harassment

Do not answer calls or engage with these people. They are toxic. I am sorry you got toxic parents. It sucks. It's unfair. It can't be changed. I would have no contact with them. I would set up my home environment to make it more difficult for them to harass you. If you have a back fence, put a lock on the gate. I would not pick up calls that you cannot identify. If they call repeatedly, I'd make a note of day and time. If they come to your house, bang on your door, or look in your windows, call the police. Make a recording of it if you can. Having evidence makes it that much easier if you do have to go to court.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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Good advice, everyone. Trust me when I say that...by the time people are willing to share drama and personal pain with complete strangers online...they are truly at the end of their ropes.

As far as not enforcing my boundaries...I can see your point. Thanks. My concern is, if I don't answer the phone...she shows up at the door. If I don't answer the door she let's herself ( and whatever family members she's brought along) into my backyard and begin s knocking on the windows calling my name loud enough for the neighbors to hear and peering into my house. Hiding and being afraid...in my own house...even after moved multiple times and she hunts us down...at what point should we stop running and stand our ground? I talked about all this in my OP by the way.

My concern now is that she'll sue for visitation rights. Of course she won't get them but she has the money and it'll make our lives hell. Which is what I think she wants more than anything. To make us suffer for disobeying and trying to escape her.
Just like you didn't have a problem telling her over the phone to **** off and leave your family alone, you do the same thing when she trespasses on your property and say it loud enough so the neighbors will hear. Also, when they come onto your property, don't hide call the police. Stand up to them now, they know what buttons to push, get yourself some counseling and as someone else said, hopefully your wife will be on board also. Deal with these ***holes head on, you are no longer 6 years old ( I am sorry to hear that you endured such a horrid childhood by the way-you didn't deserve that), they (she and your dad) deserve prison time and since money can buy freedom it certainly won't buy the embarrassment and humiliation they will experience once exposed.
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Old 12-13-2013, 05:05 AM
 
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My grandfather was an alcoholic and my kept him away from us. The first time I met him was at his open-casket viewing.

Document their harassment on paper… Leave a paper trail that way you have proof. Are security cameras an option?
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:55 AM
 
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Move and tell no one in your family where you moved. Cut all ties and contact. You will be happier and healthier. Please, go talk to a therapist about your problems. It is clear that you are still hurting because of all that you have been through. Your family is not worthy of being around you or your kids. They refuse to change or even admit they have a problem, so there is nothing you can do except worry about yourself and your wife and kids. Good luck.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:37 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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To the OP: I am so sorry you had to go through all this. I, too, had a very manipulative family. My Mom's mother and father were the most manipulative people that most would ever know. When my sis and I were kids, and my Mom was in her 30's, she finally stood up to her mother and said NO MORE.

We no longer had to go to the grandmother's house, do holidays with them, or any of that stuff. There was a definite change in my immediate family's dynamic - and it was FOR THE BETTER.

So, maybe this gives you a feel for how your kids feel. Cutting off people that are manipulative and abusive are a testament to YOUR self esteem and the self esteem of your kids for their future. You are doing the right thing by breaking away and living the life you are desperately trying to live.

Kudos to you! Stay strong!
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Old 12-13-2013, 05:40 PM
 
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Can you put a lock on the gate to your backyard?
If you do you will now have two problems solved , phone and they can't come into the back yard.
Be proud of yourself for staying sober during all of this , don't use family drama to
escape into drinking again.
There is only one person who can solve this and that is you.
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Old 12-13-2013, 07:00 PM
 
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I don't think the OP is coming back.
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Old 12-15-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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There are some on these forums who seem to accept anything and everything in the name of "family" (criminal behavior, mooching, being lazy and mean, etc.). I am not one of them and frankly do not understand how accidents of birth mean you have to accept horrendous behavior.

The family members I love, I love because they are good, decent, hard-working people. The ones who simply by accident of birth are related to me but who are nasty, mean-spirited people (or in one case a sociopath), I do not want or need in my life.

OP, I think you need to cut your parents out of your life, period. You don't need them.
This!! Same here. My own mother is dying of cancer & I do not give a rat's a**. She abondoned me for cocaine & I did not know who my father was because she could not keep her legs closed.

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