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I am covered by Medicare. I get a monthly accounting statement of medicare expenses paid on my behalf, from CMS, a company in Chicago whose website says "Centers For Medicare And Medicaid Services is a private company categorized under Public Health Agency Administration, Government and located in Chicago, IL". They are a private, for profit company who has been hired to do what the government used to do itself. That sure smells like privatization.
More than 2,000 miles of the US Interstate Highway system is owned by private contractors, who charge tolls for the use of the roads.
More than 100,000 prisoners are in 264 privately-owned prisons.
CMS is more or less a watchdog for medicare and medicaid. This organization develops the conditions for participation and conditions for coverage for health care providers. I believe it also is going to play a large part in health care reform. CMS is not a private company who does something that the government used to do. Can you give a citation on that?
There are several regional offices, not just one in Chicago.
Some private companies have leased the roads, there are investor owned toll roads,there, for profit toll roads, not for profit toll roads, county and state owned toll roads, nationally owned toll roads and yes they all charge. Tollroads: their past & their future | TOLLROADSnews
. I have an account at the First National Bank. Any bank in the US that uses the word "national bank" in the name specifically means they are chartered by an agency in the US Treasury.
CMS is more or less a watchdog for medicare and medicaid. This organization develops the conditions for participation and conditions for coverage for health care providers. I believe it also is going to play a large part in health care reform. CMS is not a private company who does something that the government used to do. Can you give a citation on that?
There are several regional offices, not just one in Chicago.
Some private companies have leased the roads, there are investor owned toll roads,there, for profit toll roads, not for profit toll roads, county and state owned toll roads, nationally owned toll roads and yes they all charge. Tollroads: their past & their future | TOLLROADSnews
. I have an account at the First National Bank. Any bank in the US that uses the word "national bank" in the name specifically means they are chartered by an agency in the US Treasury.
If I lived in Afghanistan, I could get a checking account at Pashtany Bank. It is government owned and has 20 branch offices for customers
I already quoted a line from the CMS website: ""Centers For Medicare And Medicaid Services is a private company categorized under Public Health Agency Administration, Government and located in Chicago, IL". I don't know what else you want me to do.
A "national bank" is entirely owned by private investors, for the purpose of earning a profit. It is "chartered" as a national bank, which means it agrees to conform with regulations set out by the federal agency, as opposed to "state banks" which function under different regulations. It implies nothing about the ownership of the bank.
I already quoted a line from the CMS website: ""Centers For Medicare And Medicaid Services is a private company categorized under Public Health Agency Administration, Government and located in Chicago, IL". I don't know what else you want me to do.
A "national bank" is entirely owned by private investors, for the purpose of earning a profit. It is "chartered" as a national bank, which means it agrees to conform with regulations set out by the federal agency, as opposed to "state banks" which function under different regulations. It implies nothing about the ownership of the bank.
I asked you to provide a citation to prove your information. Your quote is only misinformation and shouldn't be available for posters to read and believe it's true, it simply is not. Working in a hospital for 25 years and implementing the DRG Prospective Payment System I believe gives me an edge when it comes to healthcare, Medicare part A, B, D, billing, coding and others areas.
I asked you to provide a citation to prove your information. Your quote is only misinformation and shouldn't be available for posters to read and believe it's true, it simply is not. Working in a hospital for 25 years and implementing the DRG Prospective Payment System I believe gives me an edge when it comes to healthcare, Medicare part A, B, D, billing, coding and others areas.
If it is your position that CMS is disseminating misinformation on their own website, that remains for you to prove.
I can 't relocate the original CMS website from which I cut/pasted that line, but it can also be fund in this one. http://www.manta.com/c/mm2mry1/cente...icaid-services
Even if you refuse to accept this example, I've given you others. I leave it to you to show me ONE example of a private business that has been taken over by the government, other than a few emergency situations in which an essential service went into bankruptcy and the government had to. Jut one example, where ANY private business was "socialized", to defend your statement:
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This country is getting more socialistic every day, .
Guess they skipped taking over the print media because it now 'belongs to the ages'. If indeed the there were any attempt to take over the print media it would be met with howls of protest.
To even suggest taking over the 'new' media is outrageous and equates to disarming the electorate!
Next, the three branches of governemtn will be consolidated into the executive branch. "Duh, that sounds like a good idea".
Only a profoundly stupid electorate would buy into a government takeover of the media. Time to become more like Europe. It is time to break away from the union into isolated states. When the dust settles we reform the union with a part time central government.
Unfortunately we have a profoundly stupid electorate.
The lack of understanding of the rule of law, the Constitution, and the proper role of the branches and divisions of government have been tossed aside, replaced by What are you going to do for me today?
Lieberman is Moderator cut: language IMO a traitor to propose such a power grab. No one should spend any more than 20 years in DC, it ruins even the finest people.
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On Thursday Sen. Joe Lieberman proposed new legislation that would give the government the power to take over & even turn off the internet during a national crisis. Companies that don't comply could be fined.
So, are you for or against such and measure and why?
It's been interesting to read everyone's responses. I personally don't like the idea. I don't feel that the federal government should be so involved in citizen's day-to-day lives, which includes the internet. Also, simply because the US server (or what-have-you) is taken offline doesn't mean everyone else's service is offline. Someone will find a way to reroute from other nations. I'm not a techy like my husband, but there is a way around any system or lack of system.
I agree with the poster who stated that the government would be better off figuring out how to prevent cyberterrorism in the first place.
It's been interesting to read everyone's responses. I personally don't like the idea. I don't feel that the federal government should be so involved in citizen's day-to-day lives, which includes the internet. Also, simply because the US server (or what-have-you) is taken offline doesn't mean everyone else's service is offline. Someone will find a way to reroute from other nations. I'm not a techy like my husband, but there is a way around any system or lack of system.
I agree with the poster who stated that the government would be better off figuring out how to prevent cyberterrorism in the first place.
Thanks again for all the input.
I am amending what I previously wrote here, as I have some research, and found a genuinely fascinating FAQ http://www.isoc.org/briefings/020/ that clarifies a lot of things in plain language, for those of you willing to take the time to read it.
Basically, he entire internet is controled through 13 Root Name Server operators. They control 130 Root Name Servers, located in 53 countries. They are not controlled directly by any entity, and there is no single umbrella authority. In 2002, a hacker disabled more than half the 13 operators, and it had negligible effect on global internet operations. Most of them are at secret locations, and in a sense, there is a sort of an Internet Mafia, impervious to even government twiddling. This internet mafia preserves as it's highest calling, the integrity of the Internet.
The USA, at best (or worst), can use threats and force to compel ISPs to install firewalls to block what the government tells them to block. When such a blacklist becomes unweildy, the simple next step is to create whitelists---approved internet sources that are the only ones allowed through.
It is true, though, that a huge majority of the people in the world depend heavily on Google, Yahoo, MSN, and other services, whose credibility can be gutted by a US government edict. Virtually all search engines would have to be rebuilt from scratch in free countries.
Luckily, we have China's example to follow---they are way ahead of us on these matters.
I don't think an internet "kill switch" is either necessary nor a particularly great idea. But suppose such a thing was approved and established...and that the government used it. I have a crazy suspicion that it wouldn't be the end of either our republic or civilization as we know it. I mean, I heard a rumor that there was life before the Internet. (I'm presently conducting research to determine how much truth there may be to that rumor).
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