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Old 11-07-2010, 09:17 AM
 
Location: 53179
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I was shocked that they held it on a Sunday, years ago the religious right would have gone ballistic
It is not a national holiday and the religious right are not, thank God, in charge of our freedoms!
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I They've just been at it so long they refuse to change their stance out of fear of having been wrong. Either that or they really are that dense.
Or perhaps they are attracted to the essential beauty of a belief that the birth of a child to a penniless and humble couple, which can be perceived metaphorically as representing the hope attendant to the birth of all children and their innocent potential for goodness, is a possible answer to what appear to be inexplicably robust revisitations of evil and cruelty to our world.

Don't get me wrong. I'm no Christian. It just makes no more sense to me to ascribe only ignorant and hateful motivations to Christians than it does to hold them in highest esteem as the sole possessors of some sort of eternal and literal truth.

The Dalai Lama, speaking recently of American education, said something to the effect that American educators think a lot about teaching their pupils facts and methodology but not enough about instilling habits of loving-kindness. I would argue that in its most benevolent forms, Christianity is interested in that very perspective -- that, in fact, its central rituals and parables, which many find so repellant and worthy of their scorn -- are, no less than those of Buddhism or Islam, actually illustrations of the need for compassion and universal love.
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:35 AM
 
Location: maryland
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I was shocked that they held it on a Sunday, years ago the religious right would have gone ballistic

A few years ago a local town actually banned Halloween when it was on sunday. They actually called an emergency town meeting to do this.....there you go democracy in action.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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A few years ago a local town actually banned Halloween when it was on sunday. They actually called an emergency town meeting to do this.....there you go democracy in action.
Ugh, so much for coming out of the Dark Ages!
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:28 AM
 
Location: maryland
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If anything, the origins of Halloween are more wiccan than satanic. On the other hand, the early Church co-opted Saturnalia (because they couldn't get the masses to stop celebrating it) and turned it into Christmas--Jesus was born in late spring. But after four or five centuries of inability to stamp Saturnalia out, the Church had a revelation. Who would have guessed? Jesus was actually born on December 25--voila! So anyone who has a problem with Halloween should certainly not be celebrating Christmas.

This shows how unimportant postings on facebook actually are! It's the "as seen on TV" phenomenon, writ electronically.

They took many holidays to add to it...that was only one. And we have no idea when christ was born actually . Also wicca didn't exist at that time.

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Old 11-09-2010, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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And we have no idea when christ was born actually .
What I've read is that the gospels refer to "shepherds watching over their flocks by night" when they see the Star of Bethlehem marking the birth of Jesus. Shepherds would traditionally be in their fields at night when lambs were being born, which happens in the spring.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:08 AM
 
Location: maryland
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What I've read is that the gospels refer to "shepherds watching over their flocks by night" when they see the Star of Bethlehem marking the birth of Jesus. Shepherds would traditionally be in their fields at night when lambs were being born, which happens in the spring.

The problem is we have no idea how accurate that story was. It was only in one gospel, thus most likely the story was an invention.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:09 AM
 
Location: maryland
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Ugh, so much for coming out of the Dark Ages!

No kidding.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:30 AM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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Hell houses are haunted attractions typically run by American, fundamentalist Christian churches or parachurch groups. These depict sin, the torments of the damned in Hell, and usually conclude with a depiction of heaven. They are most typically operated in the days preceding Halloween.

The exhibits at a hell house often have a controversial tone focusing on issues of concern to evangelicals in the United States. Hell houses frequently feature exhibits depicting sin and its consequences. Common examples include abortion, suicide,[1] use of alcoholic beverage and other recreational drugs, adultery and pre-marital sex, occultism, homosexuality, and Satanic ritual abuse. Hell houses typically emphasize the belief that anyone who does not accept Christ as their personal savior is condemned to Hell.
Hell house - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Evangelicals take place in Halloween alright. Just not the same way that we do.
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Ugh, so much for coming out of the Dark Ages!
A poster in the cats forum had a litter of rescued feral kittens she was caring for. People would come and coo over how cute they were, all except the little black one with the tips of his toes white. He was "scary". After more than one prospective decided the cute little kitten was scary they decided to keep him so he wouldn't go to someone who might harm him.
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