Why is incest wrong? (carry, work, single, considered)

[temptation001]

I think the question was "Why is INCEST wrong?", not "Why is inbreeding wrong?" But since everyone is talking about inbreeding, I too would like to put my 2 cents in and say that inbreeding is wrong because it creates deformed children.

[AONE]

I guess I've been conditioned to think ick... but in reality I guess i could care less what others do..... guess it means fewer presents to have to buy when daddy is also grandpa...

I'm trying to keep tongue in cheek as i wretch...lol

[llamallynn]

I don't think I want to answer the question Why is Incest Wrong but instead want to ask, How is Incest Right?

[AnnieA]

I haven't finished this thread but I have read most of it. I know, intellectually, that between "consenting" ADULTS, it may be should not be taboo but, I just can't get around the ick factor, as someone said. There are trust issues, IMO, that can be deep and profound unless both parties are mature adults. I guess having been stalked and preyed upon by a family member (not my Dad), I take a dim view of such goings on. It colors my life to this day, 60 years later. And, I have read too many case histories where incest was a factor in a shattered life.
I have to leave this subject. I guess I am not liberated enough. eta: I also think men are more prone to think it is "okay" than women are, JMO, go figure.

[Nozzferrahhtoo]

Originally Posted by temptation001

I think the question was "Why is INCEST wrong?", not "Why is inbreeding wrong?" But since everyone is talking about inbreeding, I too would like to put my 2 cents in and say that inbreeding is wrong because it creates deformed children.

Again no it does not. It increases the LIKELIHOOD of mutations occurring in Children. It does not defacto create deformed children however.

The acid test for peoples beliefs however is to remove consideration of their excuses and see if they are STILL against the thing.

So when someone says “Incest is wrong because it puts the offspring at risk” ask them to imagine a 100% effective contraception. If the people use that contraception is incest STILL wrong?

You will find almost all of them (or at least this is what I personally find) will still say it is wrong!

If the reasons they give for it being wrong are removed they still call it wrong. This shows that they are not being honest with you, or possibly with themselves, as to what their real reasoning actually is.

[steel7]

I have read & heard about daughters & fathers, mothers & sons & brothers & sisters having sexual relations & its just not right.

If the female gets pregnant a mentally challenged or deformed baby may be the end result.

[Nozzferrahhtoo]

Originally Posted by steel7

I have read & heard about daughters & fathers, mothers & sons & brothers & sisters having sexual relations & its just not right.

If the female gets pregnant a mentally challenged or deformed baby may be the end result.

As I mentioned above, if reproduction was not a factor... say with 100% effective contraception... would it still be "just not right" or is there other reasons too?

[temptation001]

Originally Posted by Nozzferrahhtoo

Again no it does not. It increases the LIKELIHOOD of mutations occurring in Children. It does not defacto create deformed children however.

The acid test for peoples beliefs however is to remove consideration of their excuses and see if they are STILL against the thing.

So when someone says “Incest is wrong because it puts the offspring at risk” ask them to imagine a 100% effective contraception. If the people use that contraception is incest STILL wrong?

You will find almost all of them (or at least this is what I personally find) will still say it is wrong!

If the reasons they give for it being wrong are removed they still call it wrong. This shows that they are not being honest with you, or possibly with themselves, as to what their real reasoning actually is.

I expressed my opinion on post #114, and then made another post in regards to inbreeding. Since inbreeding is a possibility for genetic malformations, that is as good as any reason. As to why incest is wrong, alone, I expressed my answer in post #114. And did try to steer the conversation as to the actual question.

[Nozzferrahhtoo]

Originally Posted by temptation001

I expressed my opinion on post #114, and then made another post in regards to inbreeding. Since inbreeding is a possibility for genetic malformations, that is as good as any reason. As to why incest is wrong, alone, I expressed my answer in post #114. And did try to steer the conversation as to the actual question.

Which is why I pointed out that most people who think incestuous sex wrong would STILL think it is wrong even if the inbreeding element was removed somehow.

There are those who claim they are against it solely because of the increased likelyhood of genetic issues with off spring. If however no off spring are possible, they still speak out against it... showing that inbreeding is not really where their concerns lie.

However remember when you say "Since inbreeding is a possibility for genetic malformations, that is as good as any reason." you are forgetting the fact that ALL reproduction is a possibility for genetic malformations. All of it. The only different between incest and "normal" reproduction is that the probability is slightly increased for one.

[temptation001]

Originally Posted by Nozzferrahhtoo

Which is why I pointed out that most people who think incestuous sex wrong would STILL think it is wrong even if the inbreeding element was removed somehow.

There are those who claim they are against it solely because of the increased likelyhood of genetic issues with off spring. If however no off spring are possible, they still speak out against it... showing that inbreeding is not really where their concerns lie.

However remember when you say "Since inbreeding is a possibility for genetic malformations, that is as good as any reason." you are forgetting the fact that ALL reproduction is a possibility for genetic malformations. All of it. The only different between incest and "normal" reproduction is that the probability is slightly increased for one.

You are correct that all reproduction has a slight possibility of genetic malformation, but since the odds do increase with inbreeding, it might be enough for some people (me), to be against inbreeding. The same as taking drugs while pregnant and being in an environment with harsh chemicals that might affect the unborn child. Any greater than normal chance that a child will be born with mental retardation, or genetic abnormalities should be, in my opinion, reason enough to not conceive.

If you take the inbreeding element out of the equation, many people will say it is wrong because of the sense that it is wrong. Possibly in a moral, or social sense. Others might have more opinions as to why, which is why this thread is a good analysis on the subject. Like you, I also am curious as to people's answers, but most don't really surprise me, since it is a very sure bet that most of us are simply uninterested in pursuing any relationship with our siblings that goes beyond family/friendship.