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I put that post up 10 minutes ago- Anyway- There is no need to reply- Have fun w mommy
Yes, it is actually a common misconception that people who argue that some thing X is ok, actually engage or use X themselves. It is not always so.
Although I am interested in showing that many of the reasons we call incest wrong are either baseless or imaginary, this does not mean one can conclude I have any interested in engaging in it myself. I also argue for many homosexual rights although I myself am straight and I debate the pro-choice side of abortion often although I am male and clearly never intend to have one myself. Nor do I need to be black or female to argue against Racism against them or sexist practises in the workplace. I am also against the banning of many types of pornography although I never look at the stuff because I find it boring, pointless and about as much fun as going to a restaurant that shows you the food then takes it away.
In fact if you had been bothered to follow the thread before replying to it you would find I adumbrated quite clearly my own reasons for not wanting to engage in any form of incest. You will find that post here.
However I think you know all of that and you just made your comment because you think it somehow big and clever to run away from threads after making some parting snide shot or other to make yourself feel superior.
Run away from threads! I am quite bored and disgusted by this- I dont understand how ANYONE could think it is NOT WRONG for mothers and fathers to have sexual intercourse with their children is pathetic- You seem to have a STRONG opinion in FAVORING that there is Nothing wrong with incest while have a STRONG opinion AGAINST it- This is NOT to make myself seem superior as you think- I personally think you are the one that "thinks" he is the superior one here- I was stating my opinion that I think it is disgusting and you are telling me that my opinion is wrong or naive- Anyway, Enjoy your day.
"Well, why not?" arguments typically don't fly far. It's like the people who try to convince you that glugging down a glass of your own urine in the morning is good for you. Maybe it is. I don't care. It's still gross, and most people agree with me. We could be brainwashed, we could be misinformed, we could be reacting on a visceral level to something our bodies somehow do not want to do. "Well, why not?" is not enough reason to change my mind. If you disagree, chug some pee and get back to me how that went.
I dont understand how ANYONE could think it is NOT WRONG for mothers and fathers to have sexual intercourse with their children is pathetic
Again it would help if you read the words written by people before you reply to them. I very clearly said that I am talking about "consenting adults" so parents having sex with children is not what I am talking about here.
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You seem to have a STRONG opinion in FAVORING that there is Nothing wrong with incest
My position is that no one is able to explain why they think it is wrong. People like yourself simply say it is wrong because it "just is" or you think it is wrong and can not understand why everyone else does not agree.
I am not saying it is right. I am not saying it is wrong. I am simply asking... if you think it is wrong WHY do you think so. Reasons. Arguments. Evidence. Data.
The fact you are unable to give any but instead resort to snide comments to make yourself feel superior before running away is telling and it is something you should explore, if not with me or people on this thread, then with yourself.
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you are telling me that my opinion is wrong or naive- Anyway, Enjoy your day.
No I am not telling you that. I am telling you that your opinion appears to be baseless. You are holding, and choosing to publicly espouse, an opinion that when asked for the base of it you can provide nothing but snide and angry comment. Why do you feel that might be? What is your inability to adumbrate your reasoning symptomatic of?
I am not so sure the legal definition of incest is set at the right level of relationship. I would be much more comfortable with opposite sex first cousins having sex than a 50 year old male and his 18 year old boy toy. If we are going to legislate morality, who's morals are we using?
... and if we are going to talk morality are we going to mix it up with what you feel "comfortable with".
It is not easy but it helps if you separate your arguments for something being right/wrong from how comfortable it personally makes you feel. Not an easy thing for us humans do to, but it is worth aspiring to because at the end of the day your comfort is irrelevant to what two consenting adults do alone in their bedroom.
... and if we are going to talk morality are we going to mix it up with what you feel "comfortable with".
It is not easy but it helps if you separate your arguments for something being right/wrong from how comfortable it personally makes you feel. Not an easy thing for us humans do to, but it is worth aspiring to because at the end of the day your comfort is irrelevant to what two consenting adults do alone in their bedroom.
And my thoughts on what they do in the bedroom should be irrelevant to them.
And my thoughts on what they do in the bedroom should be irrelevant to them.
Indeed this is also true!
However the issue is that there are a, sometimes significant, number of people who do not want to stop at merely saying that they are uncomfortable with what people do in their bedroom.... but they want to have said actions labelled immoral, evil, wrong, or even illegal!
There literally are people who think "X is disgusting or unpleasant to me.... therefore no one should be doing it".
Why people should think that way is a constant mystery to me, but THAT often think that way is pretty clear. I can only guess at the why. Maybe they just do not want to think that there are avenues of pleasure and/or happiness open to people in this world that are closed to them.
[quote=Nozzferrahhtoo;17393520]Indeed this is also true!
However the issue is that there are a, sometimes significant, number of people who do not want to stop at merely saying that they are uncomfortable with what people do in their bedroom.... but they want to have said actions labelled immoral, evil, wrong, or even illegal!
There literally are people who think "X is disgusting or unpleasant to me.... therefore no one should be doing it".
Why people should think that way is a constant mystery to me, but THAT often think that way is pretty clear. I can only guess at the why. Maybe they just do not want to think that there are avenues of pleasure and/or happiness open to people in this world that are closed to them.[/quote]
Boy you Really have some strong feelings on this issue dont you?
To me, incest is wrong because when I think of incest, I don't think of two consenting first cousins of legal age. I think of a sick demented father abusing his much weaker, powerless daughter. Or I think of an adult taking advantage of an underage realtive. I think of a marauding, manipulative mother having her way with her emasculated son. You know how most people do not or cannot think of their parents ever being sexual? Well, I get that same sick in the stomach feeling when I think of an incestuous relationship especially when I think of MY relatives LOL.
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