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Old 01-26-2011, 03:13 AM
 
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A lady I know was laid off from her job as a Administrative Assistant two years ago and did a half hearted job search that came up dry after two years. She collected 99 week of benefits and was finally cut off as her eligibilty ended. Now she is still unemployed, without a dime to her name, so she went down to the welfare office to apply for benefits. They offered her about $300 in food stamps, but nothing else.

She lives with he sister and can survive with $300 in food (from the food stamps) and the sister will not charge her rent because she takes care of her kids for rent. (The person I am talking about is single and childless. The kids she helps watch are her sisters) So her basic needs are covered. She could survive under this situation for years.

So my question is does America owe this woman anything? Should people who just can not (or will not) find a job be supported until......???

 
Old 01-26-2011, 03:27 AM
 
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No. Unless they are truly incapable of working.

That is the sticking point.

There are plenty of MD's out there who will pronounce someone "handicapped" so that person can deliberately stay on compo.
 
Old 01-26-2011, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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If you are young enough........just have a kid.......then you will be good to go.

There are a lot of people that have kids just for the welfare benefits.

I personally know of a woman that deliberately decided to have another child because the one she had was about to age out.
 
Old 01-26-2011, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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So my question is does America owe this woman anything? Should people who just can not (or will not) find a job be supported until......???
You mean should our tax dollars provide 75$ a week for food to a single, childless person who is homeless and was laid off from her job during difficult economic times when the unemployment is around 9+%. I vote yes considering I blame our government for most of the job losses and high unemployment. The gov. does little to support small business, but they support NAFTA, and do nothing to stop the out of control illegal immigration. We have no qualms handing out foodstamps, medical benefits and free housing to single parents who had no means to support the children they produced or illegal immigrants that have no business here much less to receive benefits. Not to mention the bail out of large corporations and banks.

So giving 75$ a week for food to a citizen who was responsible enough to not have children out of wedlock, was gainfully employed and paid into the system for ??????amount of time and has figured a way to trade her services, legally, for the remainder of her support until the economy becomes more stable seem a small burden.
 
Old 01-26-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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You mean should our tax dollars provide 75$ a week for food to a single, childless person who is homeless and was laid off from her job during difficult economic times when the unemployment is around 9+%. I vote yes considering I blame our government for most of the job losses and high unemployment. The gov. does little to support small business, but they support NAFTA, and do nothing to stop the out of control illegal immigration. We have no qualms handing out foodstamps, medical benefits and free housing to single parents who had no means to support the children they produced or illegal immigrants that have no business here much less to receive benefits. Not to mention the bail out of large corporations and banks.

So giving 75$ a week for food to a citizen who was responsible enough to not have children out of wedlock, was gainfully employed and paid into the system for ??????amount of time and has figured a way to trade her services, legally, for the remainder of her support until the economy becomes more stable seem a small burden.
Even though I do not agree supporting even couples, with some exceptions though, I must less supporting the lady in this case I must say you mention some good points. My brain says no but my emotions say yes I must admit. I have written some post about irresponsible citizens and this lady seems to have been responsible all her life so I think she may deserve more than others that are making babies expecting the government to support them or people that simply find ways to milk the system and get all they want, take care.
 
Old 01-26-2011, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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How poor do you have to be to qualify for food stamps?
I have seen tremendous inequalities in the approval/disapproval procedures.

GL2
 
Old 01-26-2011, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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I believe each state has different poverty level guidelines. Things such as home ownership, vehicles and other assets also are considered.
 
Old 01-26-2011, 01:58 PM
 
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As a single white male w/o kids or disability I literally would starve if I lost my job and was denied unemployment and couldn't get help from private charities or friends/family. Now, the likelyhood of that scenario happening (losing job, employer screws me out of UE, no family or charity help and no luck finding job) is very remote but it does irk me a bit to see people game the system while others that really are in a bind can't get squat.
 
Old 01-26-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: In a house
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People who have jobs and own their own homes, don't need welfare or foodstamps. It's the ones who don't have jobs, and don't own homes, who qualify for them. In fact, that's an actual rule: you have to not own equity in your home, and you have to have no other means of income. Welfare and foodstamps are intended to assist people who can't get food or housing - not for people who already have it.
 
Old 01-26-2011, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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People who have jobs and own their own homes, don't need welfare or foodstamps. It's the ones who don't have jobs, and don't own homes, who qualify for them. In fact, that's an actual rule: you have to not own equity in your home, and you have to have no other means of income. Welfare and foodstamps are intended to assist people who can't get food or housing - not for people who already have it.
Not necessarily true. I have spoke to ppl recently that have jobs, but with wage cuts or cuts in hours they still qualify for some food stamps. Also there is emergency food stamps (or was) for those who temporarily lost their jobs even if they did own their home. You are right assistance was intended to assist and not become a life long crutch.

I think there is a difference in those who lose jobs and fall on hard times and need assistance and those who have received assistance for generations and just will not work or reproduce irresponsibly and cant or wont earn a living wage.



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