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Old 02-26-2011, 08:31 PM
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No;but there are other thgns just as dangerous like smoking pot that makes you dumber;juswt for starts.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:42 PM
Location: Arizona
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I always laugh when I hear about the old geezer in his 80s who smoked a pack a day and is still spry and alive. Well, truth be told, he's one of a hundred who smoked a pack a day for 50 years and is still alive. You don't see the other 99 who are looking up at the wrong side of the grass. I smoked for 40 years and my open heart surgery, plus Carodoid Endo-artorectomy plus 5 other cardiac surgerys were all the direct result of smoking. The chemical in cigarettes cause inflamation of the artery walls and the cholesterol in your blood sticks to the walls causing hardening of the arteries.
It isn't just lung falure and cancer it's heart and arterial problems that are directly attributable to smoking.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:02 PM
Location: Austin, Texas
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Like so many things that are nowadays deemed unhealthy for you these days, I've come to believe that genetics plays a huge role. Yeah: a pack-day-day smoker who also east bacon everyday for breakfast and gets zero exercise may live to be 90, while the lifelong athlete who never smoked and eats like a rabbit is diagnosed with lung cancer at the age of 45 from being around second-hand smoke when he worked as a bouncer in bars in college. And let's not forget dear Mr. Keith RIchards, whose done enough drugs and booze in his life to kill 50 men. Yet, he'll probably live to be 80!
My own cholesterol level is another perfect example: I eat clean 90% of the time, take fish oil--which is supposed to lower LDL--run 15-20 miles a week, yet I can't get my overall cholesterol level below 200.
So..are the ill effects of cigs overrated? Hard to say. How does one define "overrated" when there are so many intangibles, like genetics, involved in determining whether or not a person will be harmed by them. One thing for sure, they sure as hell ain't healthy, so it's prolly best to avoid them if you can. But if you like to smoke, just be advised that you might be hurting your health.
In closing I just wanna say that I think the role that genetics plays in determining one's vulnerability to the harmful effects of a given substance, i.e. food, smoking, drugs, booze, is going to be determined to be more and more significant as the years pass, until finally a type of genetic scan done at birth will be able to determine how safe it is for one to indulge in a given vice.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:44 PM
Location: NC, USA
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are the dangers of smoking cigarettes over done?

If anything, they are understated!!
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Old 02-26-2011, 11:24 PM
Location: Tujunga
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Originally Posted by Angorlee View Post
It seems to be a politically correct trend to be anti-smoking these days. No doubt there are dangers when smoking cigs but it seems it is blown out of proportion. My aunt was the heaviest smoker that I have ever known and she lived to be in her mid 80s. And a friend of mine has been a heavy smoker for over 40 years(both cigs and the other kind--you know what I mean). He now has some lung problems but it seems to me that his problems show how over blown the anti smoking campain is rather than an example of how bad smoking is. If smoking cigs was as bad as they say he couldn't have smoked all he did all those years and still be alive. Another thing that is somewhat puzzling is for every toxic element in our lives like pollution, medicine, poisons, etc there is point given where it becomes dangerous to our health. But not so with cigs. Obviously 5 cigs a day isn't going to be as dangerous as a pack a day but that point is never brought up. Also, as far as second hand smoke I think it is rediculous. When I was growing up in the 1950s almost everyone smoked and every where one would go the air was full of smoke. On a bus, at home, in restaurants, etc. Everywhere there was a cloud of smoke in the air yet none of my siblings, cousins or anyone else I know has any kind of respitory problems. Now they are talking about third hand smoke whatever that is. Is 5 to 8 cigs a day going to be harmful?
When I was a kid I laid down in the middle of the road to watch the sky.

It wasn't really very sensible, but I didn't die. Still, it hard recommends the action.
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Old 02-26-2011, 11:25 PM
Location: Sango, TN
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Originally Posted by texdav View Post
No;but there are other thgns just as dangerous like smoking pot that makes you dumber;juswt for starts.
Yeah, thats why I graduated with a 4.0 and a degree. Dumb people ace advanced physics and program digital logic controllers all the time.
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:19 PM
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Just because there are plenty of folks who manage to survive despite their own foolishness, it don't mean they were ever doin' the "right thing", or that it was just "harmless"!

BTW, I have a brother only 3 years younger, not long ago diagnosed with COPD and heart disease. So now he has to take some expensive medications just to breath right, and he's none too thrilled about that emergency O2 bottle he needs to keep around, either.... and yet, he still smokes! But even he wouldn't claim that a lifetime of smoking has nothing to do with it....
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:25 PM
Location: Texas
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Hmmmm...smoking isn't *good* for you.
And it might very well be very, very bad for you.
So why even go there?

Let's all remember, however, how to interpret the data.
If doing something triples your risk of some disease...and your original risk was 1%...well, that means you are at 3% risk...not some guarantee that you will get it.
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:35 PM
Location: Conservative Las Vegas
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I would like to see George Washington or Thomas Jefferson come back from the grave today and spot their first No-Smoking sign in a bar, as they were ready to light up their pipe or cigar, along with a tall glass of ale.

Where am I? Am I in Japan?
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:40 PM
Location: Texas
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To be fair, they didn't know it was bad for them...or that it was hurting other people.
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