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Unread 05-25-2011, 03:51 PM
 
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thanks InsaneTraveler ! See...it makes a HUGE difference when people research the TRUTH. Did you know in the 1800's people thought that the world would end if the population reached more than 1 billion people.

The UN is a bunch of criminals and they are in the same bed with the Council of Foreign Relations. Their whole agenda is to KILL 90% of the worlds population (Georgia Guidstones anyone ?) and convince simple minded people to agree with them.
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Unread 05-25-2011, 08:33 PM
Status: "I want a dog" (set 19 days ago)
 
Location: in a far away Galaxy
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You are correct, its not in danger of it, its already overpopulated. Only an arrogant human would say otherwise. No place that we live in a civilized manner even remotely resembles the natural world. In order to feed the relatively small pockets of huge human population we need to take many more times the area we actually live on in order to raise our food. All this displaces everything that belongs there & changes the landscape forever.
We rape the world in every corner for every resource we can snatch up usually changing everyplace we go for the worse forever.

When talking about other animals & population there is a thing called carrying capacity which is the number of critters a certain environment can support in a healthy manner. If the critters need to be fed & watered then the carrying capacity has been maxed out. The same holds true for humans. If our towns & cities cannot provide what is needed for the people who live there, and universally they cant, then by definition that area is overpopulated.
Very good post.
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Unread 05-28-2011, 03:53 PM
 
Location: The United States of Amnesia
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Is the world population out of control? Yes.
Are the people of the world out of control? Yes.
Will a major war break out over something trivial? I hope not but the chips are in position for it.
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Unread 05-28-2011, 04:08 PM
 
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Mother nature always has a way of balancing things out in the end. Sorry to say, but humans will eventually hit a turn and the numbers will start going down again. It could be a disease (modern dark ages), or War (WWIII), or self descruction (Nuclear Terrorist attack), or maybe all of the above. I'm just glad the world still has a few decades left to enjoy before stuff really starts hitting the fan.
No worries we are all going to heaven with our 72 Virginians.
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Unread 05-29-2011, 05:23 AM
 
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I think the people here a little too gloom and doom.

Here's my predictions for the future:

1) As oil becomes more expensive other types of energy will become more economical. Nuclear, solar, wind, hydroelectric, and tidal energy will become much more dominant. Advances will be made in the realm of hybrid and electric cars making them cheaper and with better performance.

2) As land price prices and the initial cost of oil make sparely populated suburbs and exurbs less attractive, we will see a boom in medium density housing in areas that sometimes houses on one acre lots. A lot more townhouses and small apartment buildings (which are more energy efficient and encourage nearby commerce which will further reduce the need for a car). Also, you will start seeing fewer cul-de-sacs and curving roads, which make walking more difficult and add to driving time.

3) As heating and cooling houses becomes more expensive new residences will be built in many ways similar to older styles. Houses in warmer climates will be built to face away from the sun and to encourage air flow. Houses in cooler climates will be built with better insulation. You will also see more xeriscaping in arid and semi-arid climates in public parks and private lawns.

4) To feed the population of the world crops with higher yields with higher resistance to pest and more hardy will be developed by both public and private interests by both genetic engineering and traditional selective breeding.

5) There will probably be an increase in greenhouses to provide nearby urban centers in cooler climates with produce normal grown in warmer climates as it will become cheaper to produce than transporting it from across the country.

6) There will be major overhaul of infrastructure to make it more efficient. A lot of electricity in the US is lost due to an outdated power grid and faulty power lines. Also, the same thing will happen with the water systems too. There are a couple of major US cities that lose more than half of the water brought in because of leaking in the pipes. Now, realistically you cannot stop it all, but it gives you an idea of how much water that could be saved and could be used for human consumption.

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That's just a few ideas (some we are already seeing) on how we will deal with the increase in population and the rising prices for a number of resources.

I know some of you are disappointed that I did not include mass famines that kill a billion or more. Nor did I talk about forced sterilization programs. The truth is that when people aren't artificially sheltered from reality (like the government has been doing for the past several decades) that they usually don't act like total retards. And if the businesses and individuals have to adjust, they usually will.
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Unread 05-29-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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My opinion is usually less attractive and actually makes people mad: Limit 2 kids per couple. Period.
Probably makes people mad because it's none of anyone's business but mine and my DH's how many children we have.
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Unread 05-29-2011, 02:20 PM
 
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Anyway, regarding the "Mother Nature takes care of things" argument--this used to be true, but modern medicine now eradicates many diseases (i.e. Mother Nature's way of controlling populations) and people who would have died 30 years ago are still alive, which is generally a good thing on an individual basis, but not so good for society with that many more "mouths to feed" hanging around. Worst of all is that Mother Nature's fetrility patterns have been screwed with in the form of "invitro fertilization" or other unnatural ways of causing people whom Mother Nature made infertile to now be able to breed their own. Many of these attempts result in multiple births and have higher odds of developmental problems, so we get scenario after scenario where instead of adopting a baby that was already born iand unwanted, people shoot themselves up with freakish drugs only to find themselves pregnant with quintuplets, born 2 months early, who will slurp up so many more resources than that would-be-adopted baby (who now might grow up without a home at all) just so they can parade around their little "genetic copies". The unchecked self-centeredness in this almost knocks me over. "LOOK LOOK LOOK AT ME! I'm a MOMMY of 5!!!! Now where's my Government Handouts?!?!?!?"
I got shot up with freakish drugs myself. One baby the first time, second time one of the two decided he wanted company, so there are twins. (Sorry I haven't been able to get a confession out of the guilty party.)

All you people with less than perfect vision, quit using glasses, contacts and surgery to improve your eyesight. Mother Nature shouldn't be messed with.
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Unread 05-29-2011, 07:23 PM
 
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I think the people here a little too gloom and doom.

Here's my predictions for the future:

1) As oil becomes more expensive other types of energy will become more economical. Nuclear, solar, wind, hydroelectric, and tidal energy will become much more dominant. Advances will be made in the realm of hybrid and electric cars making them cheaper and with better performance.

2) As land price prices and the initial cost of oil make sparely populated suburbs and exurbs less attractive, we will see a boom in medium density housing in areas that sometimes houses on one acre lots. A lot more townhouses and small apartment buildings (which are more energy efficient and encourage nearby commerce which will further reduce the need for a car). Also, you will start seeing fewer cul-de-sacs and curving roads, which make walking more difficult and add to driving time.

3) As heating and cooling houses becomes more expensive new residences will be built in many ways similar to older styles. Houses in warmer climates will be built to face away from the sun and to encourage air flow. Houses in cooler climates will be built with better insulation. You will also see more xeriscaping in arid and semi-arid climates in public parks and private lawns.

4) To feed the population of the world crops with higher yields with higher resistance to pest and more hardy will be developed by both public and private interests by both genetic engineering and traditional selective breeding.

5) There will probably be an increase in greenhouses to provide nearby urban centers in cooler climates with produce normal grown in warmer climates as it will become cheaper to produce than transporting it from across the country.

6) There will be major overhaul of infrastructure to make it more efficient. A lot of electricity in the US is lost due to an outdated power grid and faulty power lines. Also, the same thing will happen with the water systems too. There are a couple of major US cities that lose more than half of the water brought in because of leaking in the pipes. Now, realistically you cannot stop it all, but it gives you an idea of how much water that could be saved and could be used for human consumption.

_________________________

That's just a few ideas (some we are already seeing) on how we will deal with the increase in population and the rising prices for a number of resources.

I know some of you are disappointed that I did not include mass famines that kill a billion or more. Nor did I talk about forced sterilization programs. The truth is that when people aren't artificially sheltered from reality (like the government has been doing for the past several decades) that they usually don't act like total retards. And if the businesses and individuals have to adjust, they usually will.

I think to reduce the population, sacrifices will have to be made though. Here in America, I am afraid we the citizens will be sacrificed, not illegal aliens. They seem to be more important than us citizens.
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Unread 05-29-2011, 08:06 PM
 
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If a total stranger jumped me in the parking lot of a store and made some comment about thge number of children I had, I would not be so polite as to stare blankly and say nothing. I would say here what I'd say, but it violates the user agreement to use that kind of language.

FWIW, I have one child, who is adopted, but how many kids I have is of no one else's concerm, least of all some jerk I don't even know.
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Unread 05-30-2011, 05:55 AM
 
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Overpopulation as a threat is such a common sense thing that I can only think that anyone who is resisting the idea is doing so based on an emotional attachment to their personal beliefs and identity.
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