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Old 11-04-2012, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Chambersburg PA
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But, 20 years ago when he was 19, he was having sex with a 14 year old. A 14 year old.
Right, and while he should have had some sort of punishment, being stuck on the registry, should not have been part of it.

 
Old 11-04-2012, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Chambersburg PA
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Registered sex offenders are branded for life. They cant live within a few miles of schools or day cares. Some sex offenders didnt offend anyone & those are the ones who shouldnt be marked. All someone has to do is say he or she did this or that & that person is screwed.
So true! In PA and many other states, all one has to do is make the accusation, if they are 13 or undder or claim they were at the time of the alleged incident, this opens up the door wide to false accusations, esp. if you have prosecutors who are skilled at scarring people into making plea agreements
 
Old 11-04-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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I can, and I didn't have to look hard. Just a simple Google search.

"The observed rate of sexual offenders' recidivism is much lower than commonly believed," says R. Karl Hanson, senior research officer at Public Safety Canada, who has studied the issue for decades. When he speaks to groups, including police officers or therapists, and asks them to estimate the observed rate of sex-crime re-offense, he typically hears numbers such as 70% to 90%. But his review of available research in Canada and the U.S. finds the typical rate is 25% to 30% over 20 years.

Counting Repeat Sex Offenders - WSJ.com
You're completely missing my point, but that is OK!
 
Old 11-04-2012, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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You're completely missing my point, but that is OK!
What is your point, that I'm missing?
 
Old 11-08-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Default A Pipe Dream To Over Turn MEGAN LAW

Over turn this if you can MEGAN LAW
Megans
 
Old 11-08-2012, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Florida/Oberbayern
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I don't think anybody would like to overturn Megan's law, but the 'Freedom of Speech' guaranteed under the Constitution also seems (as far as the press goes) to include 'freedom from responsibility.'

If you - or the press, or anybody else - publish the name and address of a 'sex offender' and get it wrong - should you, perhaps, publish the address of a paedetrician and should some ignorant prat not know that there is a (slight) difference between the words 'paedetrician' and 'paedophile' and should the paedetrician be targetted, who is responsible? Is there (or should there be) a limit to the responsibility?
 
Old 11-09-2012, 01:34 AM
 
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A DUI?
Involuntary man slaughter?
A robbery gone wrong leading to the death of a person?
A killing done in the heat of the moment?
A pre-meditated murder? With certain persons involved?
A drug induced killing?
Gang murders?

These are all crimes that while violent have a cause and a end unless the person in question is a serial killer/ socio-path in which case? They will have a very long sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A sex crime? RAPE? Which states that there are multiple victims
Raping, mutilating and killing women?
Those charged with child rape, molestation, child pornography?
A different crime altogether!
These are deeply imbedded and have been proven to occur again over and over since some of these crimes hold a lighter sentence since no deaths occurred but does this mean that the children involved are not scarred for life?

Any sane person can see and will see why it is so important for reporting systems to be in place and this has very little to do with a puritan society of the past…
These crimes get very little attention, the perp will not get much time, and only re-offend again..
There was a poster that posted one link as claim as to why his claims were substantiated? I think not…

Some of the stats were disturbing…for some re-offenders there was a 40% rate? Really?
http://www.wsipp.wa.gov/rptfiles/soff_recid.pdf
http://www.uky.edu/CRVAW/files/TopTe..._Offenders.pdf
http://www.change.org/petitions/unit...ted-pedophiles
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/163390.pdf
 
Old 11-09-2012, 05:52 AM
Status: "Finally Done With C-D BYE BYE" (set 16 days ago)
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by dr74 View Post
A DUI?
Involuntary man slaughter?
A robbery gone wrong leading to the death of a person?
A killing done in the heat of the moment?
A pre-meditated murder? With certain persons involved?
A drug induced killing?
Gang murders?

These are all crimes that while violent have a cause and a end unless the person in question is a serial killer/ socio-path in which case? They will have a very long sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A sex crime? RAPE? Which states that there are multiple victims
Raping, mutilating and killing women?
Those charged with child rape, molestation, child pornography?
A different crime altogether!
These are deeply imbedded and have been proven to occur again over and over since some of these crimes hold a lighter sentence since no deaths occurred but does this mean that the children involved are not scarred for life?

Any sane person can see and will see why it is so important for reporting systems to be in place and this has very little to do with a puritan society of the past…
These crimes get very little attention, the perp will not get much time, and only re-offend again..
There was a poster that posted one link as claim as to why his claims were substantiated? I think not…

Some of the stats were disturbing…for some re-offenders there was a 40% rate? Really?
http://www.wsipp.wa.gov/rptfiles/soff_recid.pdf
http://www.uky.edu/CRVAW/files/TopTe..._Offenders.pdf
http://www.change.org/petitions/unit...ted-pedophiles
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/163390.pdf
I find it interesting that the original question of this thread has been blown into should there be punishment or overturning whole laws.
Back to the OP, again, there's been NO benefit shown from any of these PUBLIC lists. No issue with L.E. having a database or knowing where all the offenders are, that's their job but the public? Nope.
 
Old 11-09-2012, 06:19 AM
 
Location: living in OKLA. heart in Alaska
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yes people need to know where sex offenders live so they can protect their kids. i think they should be forced to wear face tattoos as identifying marks....
 
Old 11-09-2012, 07:11 AM
 
Location: California / Maryland / Cape May
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I have always had a bit of a problem with publicizing where sex offenders live by warning people they are moving into their neighborhood. Surely, some of these people are beyond help (in which case I don't understand why they're being freed), but for those who want to get on with their lives, doesn't this practice basically make that improbable?

If a person has served their time in prison, haven't they then paid their "debt to society"?

Why are sex offenders singled out? Why not drug dealers, attempted murderers, and drunk drivers?
Because sex offenders:

#1, unlike other offenders, have a substantially higher rate of repeat offenses vs. other criminals.

#2, can often target young children, and a parent has every right to know which neighbors to keep her children safe around. Children don't have the same set of skills to remain safe as an adult does, so parents need to be informed. How would you feel as a parent to have your child being babysat or playing board games with the friendly neighbor only to later learn he is a convicted sexual offender?

#3, since a sexual offense is typically a lesser offense, than say, murder, there are more sexual offenders on our streets than murderers (as the murderers are often locked up, where the sex offenders are right next door). If you're living near a criminal (of any variety), wouldn't you want to at least know?
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