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Old 11-09-2012, 06:45 PM
 
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It's always been confusing to me. Why do they hate on us? Is it their media? Is it our media? Wherever I go, I see someone from Europe calling an American fat, stupid, or corrupted. It gets annoying sometimes.
Europeans don't hate us. They hate other Europeans. We just look ridiculous in their eyes.

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Old 11-09-2012, 08:33 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Europeans don't hate us. They hate other Europeans. We just look ridiculous in their eyes.



Are you from the same universe or a parallel one?

Obviously not the same one you're in if you give a **** what Europeans think of Americans. And if we're so "ridiculous", as you say, why do the top students not just from Europe but the entire world come here for school and to learn how to do things?
 
Old 11-10-2012, 02:43 AM
 
Location: England
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Assuming OP's premise is true, I can see why other countries have issues with us. We meddle in the business of other countries, when we should be focused on the mess at home. We spent tens of millions of dollars and impeached a President over a blowjob. There was a national uproar over a half second nipple sighting at the Super Bowl. We complain about all "the cheap goods from China", and Walmart, but somehow Walmart is the largest company in the world. We whine a lot but don't really do enough to make a difference on so many fronts. We spend billions trying to keep pot out of most people's hands, but cigarettes and alcohol are legal.

We spend an enormous amount of time, money, and focus on ridiculous things that mean less than nothing.

Much of this comes from a few friends that lived in Europe for more than 15 years, and their views when they returned.
The English are very fond of Americans. I never have heard people speak badly of ordinary American people. I watched the attempts to impeach President Clinton with utter amazement. Who cares who a President has sex with?

The war on drugs is stupid, and a waste of money. All it's done is make criminals rich, and criminalised a lot of people.

Invading other countries like Iraq doesn't make sense. What did Iraq have to do with 9/11? I remember 'shock & awe' being advertised like a new season show. Lots of innocent people died, and many soldiers maimed and killed.

I guess that is why America is hated by many in that part of the world. We in England have longer memories, and know who our true friends are. We stand by America, just hope that you think long and hard before invading any more countries.
 
Old 11-10-2012, 07:39 AM
 
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How are we wrong? 60% of your population is heavily overweight!?

Your media promotes something in EU, and when you come here you find discrimination at every corner employment wise, long distances to drive for frivolous things like bread! You put that disgusting sperm looking icing all over every dessert making is GROSS.....you export most jobs elsewhere and the "locals" have to work in UN-preferred fields to eat. You rely on gas as if it was air, and put no efforts on creating electric transportation provided by the Sun=free! (or at least until Trump buys the Sun and starts charging daylight fees!!!!!!!!! hahahahahah) few can afford health insurance without living in a box, car insurance is based on everything BUT the driving record, you ABUSE credit for breathing basically these days....you are NOT a free society in any way shape or form considering you cannot even talk politics without being frowned upon!!! and have to be "politically correct" about everything starting with wiping your ass, and ending with fake smiling at the grocery store! its like the 1st Amendment has been abolished quietly in the last 20+ years. Your politicians are not qualified to even BE in politics, as most don't even have political science degrees...(yet you require a 4 year degree for an administrative job that pays $9 an hour)!!!! your HR managers hire based on personal preference, & Facebook which is a completely PRIVATE ACTIVITY for people, and UNRELATED to say an Accounting degree/experience, your private companies PRY in people's lives worst than the Government: How Target knows when its shoppers are pregnant - and figured out a teen was before her father did | Mail Online You don't even know the difference between "Socialism" & "Communism" as you call your politicians commies every time they are trying to make a better life for the average Joe! (which is the OPPOSITE of what a communist rule does), Your favorite sport is "Keeping up with the Jones! (or Kardashians"!) God knows WHY?
...you wear uniforms at work without being in the medical field or military (e.g. office Depot, Target etc), but not in school, school children are allowed to wear the worst fashions, which start bullying wars when if they wore uniforms not only they'd showed respect for the INSTITUTION of school, and its teachers too!!!!! you offer NO MATERNITY leave, you are in fact the ONLY country in the entire world that does not offer a comprehensive PAID maternity leave with the job back when returning. Private companies are allowed to PROMOTE SLAVERY=CRAIGSLIST allows job ads with NO PAY; NO PAY = SLAVERY, which you abolished some time ago...people have NO RESPECT for other people's careers...and a lot of people come here and then they're stuck, and can't go back, because a ticket back to Europe is over $2000! which is ridiculous, before fees and taxes. You destroyed mom and pop shops with you stupid Walmart...etc., you elect MEN politicians and allow them to decide if women should have an abortion after a rape (or any other reason, as if they should even TALK, considering that most of them don't even know how to use protection of any kind without having the gov buy them condoms and pills (how much dumber can you BE) (R Sen Akin Google it), your dentists no longer repair a cavity, but instead FORCE Root canals on people and crowns which are $1500 each, you allow private companies to rip people off money at every corner, there are no regulations, your millionaires store their money outside the US and don't pay taxes while the US is getting deeper, and deeper into debt, you pay moronic football players millions of dollars, and people working 12 hour shifts get paid $9 an hour...your minimum wage is $7 which buys NOTHING. Ryan Seacrest is paid $45 million dollars to speak a few completely retarded words on Idol not even worth $4! your TV is flooded with Honey BooBoo, and other completely disgusting reality shows, there is no quality in entertainment left, every movie is FILLED with profanities, as if real words no longer exist to express a state of mind, feeling, frustration etc, EDUCATION is always CUT FROM FIRST, the cost of going to college is out of control, you allow ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO GET A HIGHER EDUCATION IN CALIFORNIA ON TAX PAYERS MONEY, you basically cannot control your own borders, did I leave anything out? ohh yeah I did, you have commercials for MEDICATIONS that should ONLY be prescribed, and monitored by doctors, your doctors prescribe antibiotics like they're candy, money mismanagement at Gov level is mind blowing, should we even talk about Petreaus? His is CIA and couldn't cover is own tracks???? that gives me a lot confidence in that agency!!!!! Should I go on? Motorized carts have become the NORM, as "the spandex people" can no longer WALK!

The world (and that doesn't mean the US), is laughing at you now! it is embarrassing to live in 2012, and be meet with 1700's politics at every corner! You need a 2nd amendment STILL?????????? what are you, never grown out of the wild west??? embarrassing! VERY embarrassing. You live by "shoot first ask questions later" mentality...how much dumber can you BE? really! you can't talk anymore? that alone speaks volumes regarding the educational value promoted here. Your downtowns are filthy and have been turned into cracktowns! You pushed everyone on pastures to INCREASE gas consumption and be the least environmentally friendly you can be, you depersonalized everything from stores, to homes, to cars....just like in Communism...where all ppl live in the same kind of house/apartment. Shameful:
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People don't talk here anymore...they run in their homes, shut the garage door, and gone they are. NO SOCIALIZATION LEFT, your country has become the most antisocial in the world. Neighbors live next to each other for decades and don't even know their names!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It's always been confusing to me. Why do they hate on us? Is it their media? Is it our media? Wherever I go, I see someone from Europe calling an American fat, stupid, or corrupted. It gets annoying sometimes.
Europeans hate you, sort off, because IF it wasn't for Europeans this country would still belong to the Indians, yet, this country slowly turned into a GREED MACHINE at every single level, which actually goes against THE TRUE MEANING OF CAPITALISM. It is embarrasing to US, Europeans because "we built' this country!!!!! and we look at what it has become and we're shocked at best. You allowed mortgage companies to run loose and destroy the real estate market...did you forget about that? and with you, you dragged us down too!

Tell me I'm wrong!

Australia was originally populated by prisoners, and criminals, and is now THRIVING as a society. America will never make the list of "happiest countries", because the citizens are not cared for by their Gov, as in having regulations so private companies don't EXTORT & ABUSE. What is the point of being offered health insurance at work if my salary is so small that I can't afford it????????????????????? and why does my credit matter when I drive? the driving RULES matter, not how I buy my stuff! You allow 16 year old CHILDREN to drive without a mandatory driving school! so they know how to merge on a highway and NOT slow down on a ramp, and use their turning signals and not expect other drivers to be mind readers!!!!!!!!!!! You store your garbage instead of burning it...creating toxic gases and stink up neighborhoods. You don't even have SIDEWALKS anymore! Soon I'll have to use my car to go the the bathroom!!!!!!! LOLOL Ohhh and my all time favorite: EVERYTHING IS A DISORDER HERE! People are no longer allowed to express feelings without being labeled with some disorder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LAUGHABLE! at best, and you send your people to be killed, and meddle in other countries without ANY RIGHT to do so. So there...does this answer your question?

Employees are treated like disposable goods, and not like people, and valued assets to a company. Pay them peanuts and treat them like garbage. (Except for Pixar & Google, who cannot employ everyone unfortunately).

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Old 11-10-2012, 09:36 AM
 
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Charles Darwin gets 4,000 write-in votes in Georgia - Yahoo! News

Of course in our "politics" it is much more productive to waste time on something that may or may not have even happened than to concentrate efforts towards creating jobs, and stop employers from taking advantage of their employees!!!!!!!!! This is the kind of stuff you discuss at a barbecue, and not waste tax payers money on!!!!!!!!!!! Darwin is dead, he made his mark, it is time to MOVE ON!!!!!!!!

If Americans would become familiar with the word: "priorities", lots of things could change for the better.

Politicians here are completely unaware that they are paid by the tax payers, and the tax payers are unaware that it is their money that's taken away at every paycheck that is keeping these morons in office wasting their money, and time. Based on the amount of time these politicians actually work, they should be the one's making $7 an hour considering that all they do is DELAY the implementation of some important laws that could change things for the better here by arguing, insulting each other, and basically waste our money by doing nothing. Its like they're saving those 6 figures for 6 years, only to have money to re-elect themselves again, and again...so nothing ever gets accomplished.
 
Old 11-10-2012, 10:06 AM
 
Location: too far from the sea
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Hated for much of what has already been said.

Many Americans act rude, not only here, but abroad. Loud and rude and ignorant and with an attitude.

I was in a European museum once and an American on the museum tour said, "Okay, we've seen the Rembrandt, let's go." How insulting to the tour guide and what a picture he painted of the average American: dumb, uncultured, disrespectful, loud, and pushy.

Then there's the loud, brash, braggarts who constantly proclaim anything American to be better. America is better, we do this better than you, we are the best, we are number one. How does that make other people feel? If Europeans talked like that in your country would you not feel insulted and angry?

There are millions of examples like that. Add to that our lame brained politics in this country. How many YEARS did this past election take? Then we get a President with a Congress that is against anything he wants to do. Just for the sake of it. Right wing haters who are just out for themselves, selfish, not caring for the well being of others. European countries must look at us and wonder what's wrong with us.

Then there's our workaholic culture---in their countries people get WEEKS off from work during the year. They actually get time to be with their families. Here, we have to bargain and work extra just to get a few days off around Christmas or New Years. How can we see our families if we get only ONE or TWO days off? This of all countries where families often live (because of work) thousands of miles away.

The obesity? Usually people connect that with laziness and sloth-like behavior. Sure, it's spreading to other countries thanks to BIG BUSINESS in the USA, and they'll all be obese too. Another valid reason to not like us.

Our Kulture. We no longer produce any that I know of. One look at what's on tv tells you a lot. You can have 400 channels and there's still nothing on. Nothing but boring trash. Most Americans must like it or we wouldn't have it.

Our emphasis on money and greed. Many people aren't content to just live in a normal house and do normal things--they aspire to a huge house that they don't even need, often an ugly McMansion, and they can't have a car, they "need" many cars. BIG cars, not just a normal car. It's all about money so that they can buy more stupid things that they don't even need.

Our children are spoiled and Europeans have told me that they "don't treasure things." They have so much in the way of material goods that they don't even care anymore; it's meaningless.

We eat food that isn't even allowed to enter the European countries, like beef with hormones. They have higher standards, they care about their people.

Our non existing heath care system. How can any country brag about itself when only the rich can afford to get sick? Average people worry constantly about being able to afford medical care and this is a sign of a country that's gone astray. Catering to the very rich --and the rest of the people are just throwaways who exist only to serve the rich (and usually they don't even know it.)

Our educational system is not valued highly--kids aren't learning much these days in school and many can't even spell and can barely read. Illegals who sneaked into the US can go to school for free while American kids suffer the consequences of an underfunded educational system.

Guns. I don't live in a part of the country where this is a problem but many areas are filled with people who believe that they have to carry GUNS to protect themselves. Where do they live? Where are all these people who are going to kill them? I can't imagine. It's one thing to have a gun for hunting but quite another to have one for killing people.

There are a lot of good, decent, respectful Americans who want things to change but lately there seem to be MORE who are like what I described above. They give our country a bad name.
 
Old 11-10-2012, 01:33 PM
 
Location: NY
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Ill also say in addition to my post from page 1, that theyre really annoyed by our willful ignorance and "American pride." More specifically, being fat, and dumb, and actually being proud of it. Thats what it means to be American these days. The masses are too dumb to realize this country is being pandered to and divided by special interest "news" channels.

This is America in 2012, not 1949.
 
Old 11-10-2012, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Because being fat is associated with being lazy, and not caring about oneself enough to not get fat. Then we complain that airlines and stadiums don't have seats big enough for us, etc.

Assuming OP's premise is true, I can see why other countries have issues with us. We meddle in the business of other countries, when we should be focused on the mess at home. We spent tens of millions of dollars and impeached a President over a blowjob. There was a national uproar over a half second nipple sighting at the Super Bowl. We complain about all "the cheap goods from China", and Walmart, but somehow Walmart is the largest company in the world. We whine a lot but don't really do enough to make a difference on so many fronts. We spend billions trying to keep pot out of most people's hands, but cigarettes and alcohol are legal.

We spend an enormous amount of time, money, and focus on ridiculous things that mean less than nothing.

Much of this comes from a few friends that lived in Europe for more than 15 years, and their views when they returned.
That president was impeached because he lied under oath (perjury), engaged in witness tampering and obstructed justice. All of those are illegal; it doesn't matter why he lied under oath.
 
Old 11-10-2012, 03:38 PM
 
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I reserve my "hate" for a very few, very select things.. Why would I feel it towards a country of 300,000,000 people that i've only ever met a tiny proportion of?

Why do some in the US think that those in Europe care enough about them to give them more than a moments thought other than when something is happening in the US that is news worthy in our own countries?

Seems more than a touch illogical to me but there you go...
 
Old 11-10-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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I am from Great Britain been many times to America for holidays( vacations) met some real nice people on my travels but have also met some real ignorant idividuals .
I noticed a comment above how America "Gets things done " what you mean like getting the areas back to some kind of normaility after that terrible storm last week ? so many good decent folk still without electric , with out shelter .
If thats how you get things done well all I can say is you need to try harder .
Its not the movies where the hero of the day Arnie saves 1000 folks from drowning its not yeee arhhh john wayne .
people are suffering and have nothing
Sadly your Government give away to other countries far too much money from your hard earned taxes you pay .
America doesn't look after its own enough .
Another comment above " when your no1 " NO you are not number one your country is in the same if not more mess than countries all over the world .
Dont forget it was your banks and bankers who caused the mess in the first place , now getting back to why some of you think that Europeans hate you , not all hate you and thats a very strong word to use " Hate" thery dont like what America does , how it behaves , how it gets involved in so many countries politics that really has nothing to do with America .
Just like my country Great Britain gets pulled into all these conflicts we should mind our own bussiness same goes for America , you have lost so many young men and women fighting an un winable situation just like we have here and really for what ? your need and the wests need for gas .
Your so called worldly wise senators , Governors , polititians at times show so much ignorance of world events its truely laughable

On one trip to SC I was in a restaurant when one of the waiting staff who was at a guess approx 17 or 18 asked me if we had telephones here in the UK ? no the girl wasn't stupid in fact she was rather inteligent so what on earth do they teach these youngsters in school ?

As I say I have been to AMERICA many times what I have seen of it I like , but like any there are many ignorant people .
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