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Old 11-08-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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It's always been confusing to me. Why do they hate on us? Is it their media? Is it our media? Wherever I go, I see someone from Europe calling an American fat, stupid, or corrupted. It gets annoying sometimes.

 
Old 11-08-2012, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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It's always been confusing to me. Why do they hate on us? Is it their media? Is it our media? Wherever I go, I see someone from Europe calling an American fat, stupid, or corrupted. It gets annoying sometimes.
I've been to Europe a lot, and most Europeans don't "hate" us, any more than most Americans "hate" Europeans.

Most of us get along very well and have quite a bit in common.

Of course there are the people on the extremes (in both places) that "hate", but it is certainly not "all", "most", "half", or even "many" that hate.

Please explain your belief that "Europeans hate us".
 
Old 11-08-2012, 06:00 PM
 
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I've been to Europe a lot, and most Europeans don't "hate" us, any more than most Americans "hate" Europeans.

Most of us get along very well and have quite a bit in common.

Of course there are the people on the extremes (in both places) that "hate", but it is certainly not "all", "most", "half", or even "many" that hate.

Please explain your belief that "Europeans hate us".
I've seen a bit of hatred from Europeans in a lot of places, wether it's on the internet or at a mall.
 
Old 11-08-2012, 06:03 PM
 
Location: NY
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They just laugh at us because of our government, and our general blase attitude toward politics.

Cant blame them.
 
Old 11-08-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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I don't think Europeans hate us. They may have reservations on some of our policies, especially as relates to global warming, but they do not hate the American people.

However, at the risk of sounding chauvinistic, when you're No. 1, you're going to get some people angry. It goes with the territory.
 
Old 11-08-2012, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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The young people hate us because they don't need us. The middle-aged people hate us because we are not them. The old people don't hate us. They remember.
 
Old 11-08-2012, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Florida/Oberbayern
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The young people hate us because they don't need us. The middle-aged people hate us because we are not them. The old people don't hate us. They remember.
Hmmm... 'Over-sexed, over-paid and over here?'

Europeans don't hate Americans. Well most of them I know don't (and I probably know far more Europeans from far more countries than I do Americans ...and I know a lot of those, too. )

At times, some of the things (particularly the more gauche behaviour) that Americans exhibit do confuse [or annoy] Europeans.)

Specific example: Cyprus in the late 1980's. I was talking to a Greek Cypriot in a mixture of Greek and English and a 60-ish blue-rinsed lady from the 'mid wast' poked me in the back (a bit too hard for my liking) and shouted (yes, shouted - and back then there was nothing wrong with my hearing) "Hey, you! - Do you speak American?"

I turned to her and said (in a 'BBC English' [as it once was] accent) : "No madam, I'm terribly sorry, I most certainly do not."

Nowadays there are many Europeans who look at the US and moan ... but are profoundly (or at least 'more than a little bit') jealous.

There is no shortage of things that are 'wrong' with United States, but then again, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of people trying to get there. (Nor, I hasten to add, is there any shortage of Americans trying to live elsewhere.) The grass is indeed greener on the other side of the fence.

Europeans do not hate you. You confuse some of them, you **** some of them off (and being 'pissed off' is better than being pissed on) and you make some of them jealous.

You can't please all of the people all of the time - nor should you try to do so.
 
Old 11-08-2012, 09:35 PM
 
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I don't thnik all do. But likel;y it the same reason so mnay hateed the English;the spanish and french when they were the great powers. To exuce your self you have to find someone or somethng to blame it on.I think we se it often with the roits s como ineurope as we are seeig now i greece.They elected people who promsied and gave them what they didn';t have now they balme the onews who gave them what they asked and voted for.Some always see themselves as victims ;so there must be those that are evil to blame.
 
Old 11-08-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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The average SWEDE doesn't hate Americans, no more than the average American hates Swedes. (I'm not into broad generalizations I don't have actual knowledge of, so I'm not going to try to speak for 49 other cultures/nations that I don't really know.)

But people never like to be generalized. And unfortunately this country has a little bit of a problem doing that, especially the people that don't really actually know anything about what they're generalizing about. (I never knew during my time in Sweden that when my toilet flushed, it actually didn't, and when I thought I ate bread I didn't because I was actually so poor I couldn't even get ingredients for it, or that when I flipped a light switch what I thought was the lights come on was actually a "hallucination" because appearantly my country's too poor for electricity. - Just a few "thoughts" from fellow neighbours here that wanted to let me know how poor I and my country was before I came here)

So it's not a hate towards Americans, but a hate (strong word, Swedes prefere to call it "aversion") towards ignorance and especially ignorant generalizations. Less "we're number 1" when there's no facts to support it (but oftentimes the contrary) could help.
Same thing between nationalities ("European" is 50 nationalities, btw, not one): if one keeps talking about how great he/she is and how extremely jealous everyone else should be and how horrible they are, no one is going to like that person.
Next time you'll encounter a "European" just be as polite as you can be and as open as possible about the possibility that you're wrong. If you think others (in this case, "Europeans") should have to be open to the idea that they're wrong about you ("America/ns"), do the same for them. It usually works wonders. Might not work every time, but then what idea/trick does?


This "hate" we're talking about goes both directions. E.g. just mention "socialism" here and you'll see what most Americans think of "Europeans".

(Btw, it is very improductive to ask fellow Americans why "Europeans" hate "you" ("us") - everyone else's bet is just as good as yours. There's a World forum on here, that's where the people that CAN answer your question mainly hang out. )
 
Old 11-08-2012, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Florida/Oberbayern
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"Riots to come in Europe as we are now seeing in Greece" ?

Are you sure about that? Will there be riots everywhere? (Or are you setting yourself up for a bit of 'European ridicule'?)

I spend half the year in Europe and half the year in the US (and, as I told the INS man last month - who seemed concerned that I had spent such a long time outside the US - "When you are retired, if you want to spend 6 months on vacation, nobody can stop you."

My 'other house' is in Bavaria. Nearest large city: Munich. They don't seem to be to worried about 'riots everywhere' around there.

Different places have different lifestyles. The only 'crime' we have where I live in Bayern is people allowing their dogs to crap on the pavement (5%) and littering.

(Where I live in the US, most people (98%) pick up the dog crap and littering is very rare.) (There were a couple of burglars about 5 years ago, but they were 'intercepted' (apparently) and handed over to the police (more or less in one piece, too .)

I pay a lot of money to live in a 'secure' environment in the US (though not as much as you might think.) I pay rather less for that degree of security in Bayern because people behave differently.

It'S difficult (and probably inadvisable) to try to make direct comparisons.

Greece has problems. But Greece is a tiny part of Europe.
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