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Smoking *anything* will eventually lead to emphysema. It the inevitable result from continually inhaling particulate matter (i.e. smoke) into the lungs.
That statement is not true. You're attempting to compare whiskey to marijuana?
There are other ways to consume marijuana other than smoking it. There is vaporizing and making edibles in which do not cause any organ damage.
Not talking about organ damage. Talking about stunting the development of character and intellect. Yah I know about vaporizing...and remember the try at making THC pills that was the rage for a while...The reason I mention whiskey is because most pot heads like to chant the mantra of how booze brings about violence and mayhem and pot head are passive and composed. The violence occurs with pot also...it is the slow and insidious destruction of spirit through this false spirituality that some pot heads like to mention. Trust me...I in my youth have ingested just about every mind altering substance known to man...and I was a big drinker also...all I know- is ----If I had never touched booze or pot...I would have blossomed as a human being on time instead of having to wait till I was past 50...a clear head and spirit is the best way to go..it's just a fact of life.
Oh Lord... I'll see your URL and raise you one:
Smoking *anything* will eventually lead to emphysema.
And I'll raise you content and context.
Smoking anything *might* or *could* eventually lead to emphysema.
It *might* or *could* eventually lead to many other nasty things as well.
Of course exposure to air pollution and other such things can also lead to nasty things.
In the instances where emphysema does present though...
the smoking in question is of a large volume over a long period of time.
(eg: the two pack a day for 20 or 30 year habit -do note the term habit used vs addiction-)
None of this is to say that the regular inhaler of modest amounts of MJ
(eg: one or two ounces worth over the course of a year?) might not also face risks.
But to date there are no meaningful studies to rate MJ risk in any sort of reliable way.
hth
Last edited by MrRational; 12-20-2012 at 08:58 PM..
Smoking *anything* will eventually lead to emphysema. It the inevitable result from continually inhaling particulate matter (i.e. smoke) into the lungs.
I can back up what their studies with personal and first hand experiences by people that I know smoked most of their lives and who are lawyers, doctors, sucessful businessmen and women and two of my suite mates in college who are mechanical and electrical engineers respectively. What baffled me is that they graduated with GPAs of 3.7 and 3.9 respectiviely while stoned constantly
True there were some that smoked alot in high school and grew up to become failures in life, but they would have gone that route even if they did'nt smoke.
Last edited by Green Irish Eyes; 12-29-2012 at 08:36 PM..
...all I know- is ----If I had never touched booze or pot...
I would have blossomed as a human being on time instead of having to wait till I was past 50...
a clear head and spirit is the best way to go..it's just a fact of life.
Now we get down to the real issue motivating your viewpoint..
I'm sorry you had such a hard time in life but whatever your specific situation
may have been (or may continue to be) is no basis to project that on others either
in a general or even specific manner.
As with the OP of the thread and her brothers difficulties... it is apparent that whatever else
was going on transcended any specific self medicating you were both engaged in.
Keep doing what you must to stay productive... but please also keep the preaching private.
Last edited by MrRational; 12-20-2012 at 08:56 PM..
I can back up what their studies with personal and first hand experiences by people that I know smoked most of their lives and who are lawyers, doctors, sucessful businessmen and women and two of my suite mates in college who are mechanical and electrical engineers respectively. What baffled me is that they graduated with GPAs of 3.7 and 3.9 respectiviely while stoned constantly
Stoned constantly or a weekend user at parties? There is a big difference between the two in regards to how use of either alcohol or marijuana affects thought and overall logic process.
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Originally Posted by simetime
True there were some that smoked alot in high school and grew up to become failures in life, but they would have gone that route even if they did'nt smoke.
In my school, anyone who was involved with pot prior to Grade 9 ended up on the pipe, in prison or in a biker gang. In fact, I cannot think of a single exception to this rule (of course this was also almost 30 years ago. Kids being baked in Grade 7 could be the norm now for all I know). People who became chronic smokers in high school (usually supplying their seemingly insatiable appetite for it by dealing) quickly started sounding like Jeff Spiccoli in Fast Times at Ridgemount High and dropped out of school by Grade 11 or 12. I am sure there are exceptions to this, but that was generally the norm as far as these types were concerned. I don't imagine many of them found an easy path through life as a result. It can also be said that the stuff we smoked back in high school was nowhere near as potent as what kids are regularly buying these days. The big thing around where I live is "kush". Apparently it is some kind of potent Afghani strain that is being brought back from Afghanistan by Canadian soldiers serving over there. I guess on one level we can all be thankful they aren't bringing back heroin.
Stoned constantly or a weekend user at parties? There is a big difference between the two in regards to how use of either alcohol or marijuana affects thought and overall logic process.
They were stoned quite a bit. A friend of mind who studied Psychology noticed that people who studied while high retained more than they did when they were sober. I guess this is what got them thru high school and college
In my school, anyone who was involved with pot prior to Grade 9 ended up on the pipe, in prison or in a biker gang. In fact, I cannot think of a single exception to this rule (of course this was also almost 30 years ago. Kids being baked in Grade 7 could be the norm now for all I know). People who became chronic smokers in high school (usually supplying their seemingly insatiable appetite for it by dealing) quickly started sounding like Jeff Spiccoli in Fast Times at Ridgemount High and dropped out of school by Grade 11 or 12. I am sure there are exceptions to this, but that was generally the norm as far as these types were concerned. I don't imagine many of them found an easy path through life as a result. It can also be said that the stuff we smoked back in high school was nowhere near as potent as what kids are regularly buying these days. The big thing around where I live is "kush". Apparently it is some kind of potent Afghani strain that is being brought back from Afghanistan by Canadian soldiers serving over there. I guess on one level we can all be thankful they aren't bringing back heroin.
At my high school it was not as drastic, there were failures but there were more successes than failures. In retrospect there were very few fights in my high school consider the rampant weed smoking done before class and during lunch.
Not talking about organ damage. Talking about stunting the development of character and intellect. Yah I know about vaporizing...and remember the try at making THC pills that was the rage for a while...The reason I mention whiskey is because most pot heads like to chant the mantra of how booze brings about violence and mayhem and pot head are passive and composed. The violence occurs with pot also...it is the slow and insidious destruction of spirit through this false spirituality that some pot heads like to mention. Trust me...I in my youth have ingested just about every mind altering substance known to man...and I was a big drinker also...all I know- is ----If I had never touched booze or pot...I would have blossomed as a human being on time instead of having to wait till I was past 50...a clear head and spirit is the best way to go..it's just a fact of life.
I'd have to agree as I had the same experiences growing up with one exception, never,ever messed with Heroin though I had acquaintances that did and seeing them convinced me not to otherwise it was all fair game.
What I did notice was across the board short term memory loss with just about every person I was around that smoke pot. Also one has to remember these were the days of $5-$20 bags not the high potency cross bred "bud" of today.
Smoking *anything* will eventually lead to emphysema. It the inevitable result from continually inhaling particulate matter (i.e. smoke) into the lungs.
Like another poster said, you don't have to SMOKE marijuana to reap the benefits....there is "tincture" which can be added to tea, there are brownies (no lungs involved in that)..my sister worked in a facility for adults who'd suffered a brain injury (most from vehicle accidents) and they would give these patients THC pills (synthetic which is stupid considering all the natural out there), but never the less it was prescribed for them because 1) it increased their appetites, 2) it stopped the drooling, and 3) it relaxed and calmed them down.
Last edited by Green Irish Eyes; 12-29-2012 at 08:36 PM..
Smoking *anything* will eventually lead to emphysema. It the inevitable result from continually inhaling particulate matter (i.e. smoke) into the lungs.
Chronic pot use doesn't make you stupid? LOL! quote)
The article never mentioned cannabis & anyone who can read between the lines can tell by the context they were referring to tobacco. Like the part about those wanting to quit going to a doctor to have something prescribed or recommended: think nicotine gum, nicotine patches, Chantix, etc.
I think cannabis isn't likely to cause emphysema or COPD as nicotine in tobacco causes the lung cleaners (cilia) to become paralyzed while smoking & for a while afterwards, while cannabis does not. "Pot" is a lung expectorant, so coughing can occur during smoking & mucous can come up later, without coughing.
Tobacco causes 125,000 Americans to die annually. Cannabis is not a direct cause of death for anyone.
Many if not most doctors don't know any more about cannabis than you as medical school is taught by specialist doctors & reps from Big Pharma, who don't want decreased profits from legalized cannabis.
Chronic pot use does not make people stupid. There was a study done using people that said that cannabis can add on to brain structure. The claim of brain damage was from an experiment by Dr. Gabriel Nahaus at Columbia University. He put a face mask on a monkey & forced it to inhale all the smoke from 63 joints in 5 minutes (no air/oxygen).
A man in the now discontinued Compassionate Use program has been sent 300 joints a month by US govt (since the '70s, I thiink) & he had his lung capacity measured as 103% of normal. Best wishes.
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