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Old 11-24-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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My father lived with us before his death, my family said we should put him in a home but I didn't want that. My dad was a huge part of my life, so there was no way in hell he was going to a home to waste away. He lived with us for 5 years until he died. He died in his sleep in a comfortable bed, and those who loved him were with him until the end.

That's the it should be, that's the way it is in most cultures with the exception of the western world. People have become throw away items just like everything else.
You're father was obviously a good man.

You can't compare other families, because not everyone gets along or likes their parents or extended relatives.

The 93 year old in this scenario probably did NOT want to leave her home. Why should she? She was probably still able to do the things she needed and was happy. I'm sure people in her family bought her food to supplement what she had. The social worker just wanted to make sure she had enough money to purchase it herself.

I'm still shaking my head at only $16 a month, though.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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I think you're wasting your time - trying to address an issue with a person who honestly believes that welfare fraud is a GOOD and WORTHY thing, and who believes she knows more about what's going on at WalMart than WalMart employees do. Cheating and lying is, for some reason, considered a noble thing.

I don't get it.
Hey, it's okay. I get lots of 'practice' with my own family. lol I don't think the poster believes that welfare fraud is either "good" or "worthy". I certainly don't but neither do I believe that the majority of people practice such either.

I understand that Walmart has had a terrible rep for many things. However it does get my dander up when people outright lie about things like Walmart encouraging/helping their employees apply for govt. benefits. It's just not true. I mentioned that to some co workers yesterday and they looked shocked. lol Also people perpetuate rumors and lies about things that might have been true in the PAST but aren't now and haven't been in years. Because Walmart has such a rep I guess I do feel I need to defend them BECAUSE they have treated me fairly. Even if I WOULD like to make more money. Who doesn't?? lol

One of my things I've griped about has been that they schedule so whacky. I know that the schedule is done by computer in Bentonville. It is based on hourly sales, day of the week, holiday or not, etc. etc.. But I get tired of it changing.every.single.day. I can go in at 7 AM one day, 10 AM the next, 8 AM the next and work 4-8 hours. My availability is from 7 AM to 9 PM and I can be scheduled for any of those hours. For a long time I was getting split days off which was really wearing. It's hard to do it ALL in one day and then go back to work tired the next day. For the past few months I've been getting two days in a row off every four or five weeks. Well, I was able to change that. I changed my availability a little bit. Not the hours but said I wanted EVERY Tues. and Wed. off and I got it. Once a month I even get three days in a row off and still get my 32 hours a week. I love it because, finally, I can make plans to leave town or whatever I want. This 'change' was my 70th b'day present...to myself!
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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I know in PA you can get cash for your kids on your card, if your income is low enough and there's no other parent to get support from...like they died without making enough to qualify for Survivor benefits. and I believe it's like $97.50 twice a month. I'm not sure about single moms in school or anything.
And yes, Walmart is cool for ad matching...now if they'd get gas rewards and double coupons, and participate in Catalina programs, we'd be all set.
Some Walmarts DO have gas rewards. Ours doesn't but we don't have gas pumps either. I don't think they'll ever have double coupons but then I never thought they'd do ad matching either. Who knows?

Since welfare/food stamps is run by the states...with financial help from the govt....I suppose each state has some different rules. I only know about AZ. They started the education/workfare program during the Clinton administration and put a time limit on it as well.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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Yes, as a matter of fact there has not been one single day - in the last 33 years - when I have NOT been employed. More years than not, I have had two jobs. I've worked at a pizza dump for $2.75 per hour, I've worked for $60,000+ per year, and everywhere in between. I worked my way through college, and worked all the time I was in grad school - even though I was married and had 3 kids. Not once did I get one penny of FAFSA for college. I went on scholarships, which I earned. Over the years I've worked more 70+ hour weeks than not.
Wow, I like you.

I like a man that will do ANYTHING he can to put food on the table and take care of his family. After knowing this, I won't go too hard on you, because guys like you are becoming a dying breed. Unfortunately.


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So save the hyperbole, and the relentless sob stories, for somebody who's buying what you're selling.
I'm selling FOODSTAMPS. Want some?

$50 will get you $100 in groceries; $60 will get you $120 and $100 will get you $200.

Wanna make a deal?

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The bottom line is that while you and your welfare friends have been sitting around on your lazy a$$es, I've been doing whatever is necessary to make it work. THAT is the difference between us. So save the hyperbole, and the relentless sob stories, for somebody who's buying what you're selling.
I've always worked except for a couple of stints with unemployment. This isn't to say I'm "better" than people who are on welfare, because everyone's circumstance is different, so I don't judge. I stopped doing that along time ago.

One thing I can say for sure is that people on welfare are at the MERCY of the government. They can't wipe their ***** without letting the state know and how much toilet paper they used. The state will also want to know HOW they got the toilet paper to use since they're not getting CASH benefits to pay for it.

This is the worst type of life to have, especially if you have children. The fear of not being able to provide or lose your home would be enough to drive me crazy.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:23 AM
 
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Yeah but, but, but... Couponing takes WORK, and takes time away from watching football on your flat screen TV. What kind of a MONSTER are you?!?!?!
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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My father lived with us before his death, my family said we should put him in a home but I didn't want that. My dad was a huge part of my life, so there was no way in hell he was going to a home to waste away. He lived with us for 5 years until he died. He died in his sleep in a comfortable bed, and those who loved him were with him until the end.

That's the it should be, that's the way it is in most cultures with the exception of the western world. People have become throw away items just like everything else.
I hope I never have to even consider putting my mom in any kind of 'home' other than her own. Over three years ago I moved into her guest house, pay her rent to help supplement her meager SS and am here anytime she needs me. I recently spent $300 to make sure she has wood for her woodburning heater this winter. I'd do just about anything for her. She's 85 in really good health so I hope that continues for years to come. If it came down to it I would just move into her house with her but we both enjoy our space and don't invade on one another.

This is the way it USED to be. My grandparents were well taken care of by their kids all of whom lived in the same town. Even when my dad moved us out of state for a few years we were here ALL the time to visit and 'do for' them. I think our mobile society has done a good job of destroying all those old family values.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Default Costco

A number of years ago there was a 60 minute segment on Costco as the most employee-beloved of the chain operations (Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, K-Mart, etc). Their employee turnover rate back then was way below average for this type of store because employees get a decent wage and benefits. The founder said he wanted a company that took care of its people. Wall Street criticized him because, while Costco was profitable, it would be even MORE profitable if he cut wages and benefits. I'm not sure that it is still true of Costco compared to the others, but they won me over as a customer--and that before the big bust in 2008.

Profit is certainly the friend of shareholders, Boards of Directors, and corporate executive officers. As we are reaching the extreme end of a capitalist society, it rarely is a friend to the employee. Capitalism, just like socialism or communism or monarchy, ultimately destroys itself as it reaches its extremes. Then society starts over again in some other fashion. We rarely read history, and when we do, we choose to ignore it.

But I digress. I so liked that Costco segment that I destroyed my Sam's Club card, bought into Costco and now drive by Wal-Mart, K-Mart, AND Sam's Club on my way to the nearest Costco. If you want a corporation to treat employees right, then purchase goods from those that do.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:30 AM
 
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My wife & I coupon, and we get almost all our groceries at a store where all purchases add "points" that subtract from the price of gas. Quadruple points if you buy gift cards there - cards we use elsewhere. We often save 40-80 cents per gallon on gas.

It's amazing how easy it is to do all these things that "some people" claim are impossible to do!
You know what? I better not ever READ on here that either you or your wife used MEDICARE or tried to get DISABILITY or SOCIAL SECURITY for anything in the future.

Just like FOODSTAMPS, the above are ENTITLEMENT or HANDOUTS as you would call them.

The only thing you're eligible to receive is a PENSION or RETIREMENT FUND that YOU paid into.

Remember that.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Wow, I like you.

I like a man that will do ANYTHING he can to put food on the table and take care of his family. After knowing this, I won't go too hard on you, because guys like you are becoming a dying breed. Unfortunately.




I'm selling FOODSTAMPS. Want some?

$50 will get you $100 in groceries; $60 will get you $120 and $100 will get you $200.

Wanna make a deal?



I've always worked except for a couple of stints with unemployment. This isn't to say I'm "better" than people who are on welfare, because everyone's circumstance is different, so I don't judge. I stopped doing that along time ago.

One thing I can say for sure is that people on welfare are at the MERCY of the government. They can't wipe their ***** without letting the state know and how much toilet paper they used. The state will also want to know HOW they got the toilet paper to use since they're not getting CASH benefits to pay for it.

This is the worst type of life to have, especially if you have children. The fear of not being able to provide or lose your home would be enough to drive me crazy.
Why do you exaggarate so much?? If that were the case they'd probably have to dump a whole lotta people off of food stamps. lol Since MOST of the people I know who get food stamps ALSO hold jobs they can afford their toilet paper and the govt. couldn't give a damn how much of it they use. What do they do, have people visit them all and count the rolls or something??

Oh my...and you think people on food stamps don't worry about the same things you do??
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Chambersburg PA
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I wanted to rep you again Faerydark, but it told me I have to spread it around.

Again, thanks so much for this info.

My sister is someone who will NEVER buy anything at the grocery store, unless it's on sale or she has a coupon for it, even if she really, really wants it.

I'm not like that, but I'm trying.
Does she have a stockpile? The stockpile is kind of the key. Once you get one established, then you only really have to cherry pick the good deals, because you have most of what you need and you're just keeping it to a certain level.
You can't be brand loyal though.
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