Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
24,544 posts, read 56,047,835 times
Reputation: 11862
Advertisements
One common slogan you hear directed at certain immigrants here is 'we grew here, you flew here'. A good response to that is, at least they came in jumbo jets, not in chains in the hull of a boat.
When Australians talk about how they've been here 5 generations and are thus basically part of the land, it goes without saying the first Australians were here millenia before. Obviously, Australia and the New World were not culturally European to start with, so why shouldn't they be a free place for all who are willing to make it.
But Europe has nations and cultures which have existed for much longer. I know it's relative, but do you think this gives them more of a reason or a 'right' if you like to want to preserve their culture and demographics? I just can't imagine a France that is majority black or Muslim. It may be un-PC of me to say this but it would just seem wrong. An America that is more than 50% Hispanic could well have been the consequence anyway, America was never just meant for the white man, while the ethnic Germans, for instance, can at least have a better claim than Europe. I think Europeans have more of a right not to just let anyone in than countries like Australia, Canada, the US, NZ.etc. The UK is a good example of a country where in certain places Bengali is as commonly heard as English. It's not an entirely bad thing, but I wouldn't want it to become just a mini-world.
I think you need to get your head out of your ass and pick up a legit history textbook. Blacks and Muslims have lived in Europe for centuries (Granada, anyone?) and even during the days of Ancient Rome and Greece. Non-whites in Europe is nothing new, but clearly you are misinformed.
And lmao at your comment about blacks in France. I have mentioned this in other posts before, but during the civil rights' movement, black Americans like Josephine Baker LEFT the U.S. and moved to places like France. I myself, traveled to France and guess what? A French man OPENLY kissed me (and my breasts) and called me "belle" "jolie." Clearly, there are some French out there that disagree with you. In fact, even in the "new world" French and Africans OPENLY married one another (no rape involved) and created a new culture called the Creoles (my grandmother is one).
As for other European places, in the U.K. , black immigrants are marrying and assimilating into the culture and interracial rates are as high as fifty percent.
I can't speak about Germany (Germany has a horrible history, as you probably already know).
But...By your logic, I guess Africa should kick all non-blacks out, especially the whites in S.Africa. Europeans invaded OTHER nations, stole, rape, tortured, kidnapped, enslaved and stunned the growth of other nations. If anything, after that terrible history, Europeans OWE it to places like India and most of Africa to offer some sort of citizenship after colonizing and raping foreign lands of their resources.
I think you need to get your head out of your ass and pick up a legit history textbook. Blacks and Muslims have lived in Europe for centuries (Granada, anyone?) and even during the days of Ancient Rome and Greece. Non-whites in Europe is nothing new, but clearly you are misinformed.
And lmao at your comment about blacks in France. I have mentioned this in other posts before, but during the civil rights' movement, black Americans like Josephine Baker LEFT the U.S. and moved to places like France. I myself, traveled to France and guess what? A French man OPENLY kissed me (and my breasts) and called me "belle" "jolie." Clearly, there are some French out there that disagree with you. In fact, even in the "new world" French and Africans OPENLY married one another (no rape involved) and created a new culture called the Creoles (my grandmother is one).
As for other European places, in the U.K. , black immigrants are marrying and assimilating into the culture and interracial rates are as high as fifty percent.
I can't speak about Germany (Germany has a horrible history, as you probably already know).
But...By your logic, I guess Africa should kick all non-blacks out, especially the whites in S.Africa. Europeans invaded OTHER nations, stole, rape, tortured, kidnapped, enslaved and stunned the growth of other nations. If anything, after that terrible history, Europeans OWE it to places like India and most of Africa to offer some sort of citizenship after colonizing and raping foreign lands of their resources.
That Accounts for Red Haired People & The Dark-Skinned People with Nappy Hair
It started with the Moors in Rome--Septimus Severus
Black rulership of the Roman Empire begins in 193 A.D. with African born, Roman Emperor Septimus Severus. There were four other Black emperors after the Severus dynasty.
Hannibal, the father of military strategy, performed the astounding feat of crossing the Alps on elephants in 218 B.C. With only 26,000 of his original force of 82,000 troops remaining, Hannibal defeated Rome, the mightiest military power of the age, who had a million men, in every battle for the next fifteen years. His tactics are still taught in leading military academies of the U.S., Europe & other lands.
Black ruler ship was widespread in Europe during the “Dark†& Middle Ages!
I know it's relative, but do you think this gives them more of a reason or a 'right' if you like to want to preserve their culture and demographics?
They don't need a special reason to preserve their culture and demographics, it's every people's inalienable right. However, cultural Marxism in the form of political correctness and the left-wing extremist liberal loons would have Western nations shamed and villified for saying so.
Imagine a few million unassimilable, hostile foreigners going to China or Thailand and demanding special treatment from the majority, denigrating the natives' culture and customs at every turn, and crying "victim" anytime someone told them to know their place. Such is the lunacy currently gripping the West, to the point where people even begin forum discussion on whether or not the West has a "right" to survival.
It's the Kali-Yuga.
The last post attempts to claim a stake for blacks Europe, but that would be like me saying Africa is white because it was colonized by Europeans.
Europeans have any rights they want to have. Who dictates their rights to them. They have a right to expel all immigrants going back to 1950 if they want to and a lot of European people want to expell them.
Depends what you mean by cultural. If you mean people having the gall of knowing another language, having a different skin color, or being from another country...then you are a bigot. If you mean they want to cause violence against people who already live there or treason against the country they live in...then yes. I have never seen it along the guidelines of the second sentence, always the first.
People are people, no matter where they come from or the color of the thin layer of cells that keep them from bleeding onto their clothes. I would trust a person who loves America no matter their skin color, country of origin, or if they know another language over a person who is white or had family that lived here since Columbus and wants to secede any hour of the day.
Its not a matter of a "right", its not a right to preserve one's history, it is common sense, its education. Europeans usually speak 3, 4 foreign languages too out of respect for the other countries there, and for personal culture.
Regarding "Immigration" in Europe in general, countries there CARE a lot more about their borders than the US does. Simple as that. People there also don't immigrate from country to country like they do here, because each country has a VERY extensive history, and they respect that very much. Even with the borders open throughout many European countries now, most people don't just "immigrate", they visit more, but don't "immigrate", or have babies in Spain to become Spanish citizens, and so forth. Sadly the US doesn't respect history much, or its borders for that matter. Plus you don't see hoards of French people immigrating to the US, and those who DO immigrate from Europe to the US are usually doing it very civilized, with visa's, passports, and they stay in line at the immigration offices to become legal, the LEGAL way, as it should be.
Americans have a troubled history regarding respecting other countries rights, customs, and also treating their own people etc. Most Americans have no knowledge of world history, nor care to know; In Europe we put value on our history, people, and basically common sense, and even though all countries there are now free, as in not communist, we don't just "think" we can do whatever we want and expect no consequences in return. We still value responsibility, as nations, or as individuals. So, it is not a right, it is simple common sense. Same happens in Asia too, China, Japan they all respect their history very much, and don't trash it in any way. All that americans did for the Native Indians was to exempt them from paying taxes!? as in.....? what is that going to do for them? I'll give you a short example: I-86 in Upstate NY...the portion that lies n Indian Reservation is in such disrepair that I feel I am abusing my car every time I drive through it! They, the natives who live there, have a HUGE Casino, make tons of money and don't feel like spending a dime on the improvement of that road! Why is that? to spite the white people?
Of course Europe has the Gypsy's.....who are making a bad name for a lot of countries there now, and a lot of countries there have a problem with their constant on the move antics...but they are not actual NATIVES of Europe, they descent from India, and are a migrant nation. Some however are very educated (both in common sense, and academically), and are great doctors, artists etc.
Germany has always had a problem with Turkish immigrants, (which they created for themselves a long time ago) the difference is that those immigrants are productive to that society/ Some open businesses, most work legitimate jobs, and pretty much none of them sit on Gov welfare. Big difference, but there are a LOT of Turkish immigrants in Germany. Turkish Immigration to Germany: A Sorry History of Self-Deception and Wasted Opportunities - SPIEGEL ONLINE
BTW Black existed in Europe for thousands of years...for one, the ONLY difference is that those "blacks" are completely different than the ones residing in the US. "Blacks" in Europe descent from Africa too, bur their majority there is educated academically, does not wear their pants down their butts, don't speak in slang, speak more than one language and are literally night and day different than the ones in the US. I've met many, and they usually come to Europe from Africa to study, not live off of Governments! Not because they actually have too, but because of employer discrimination, that is not as prevalent elsewhere in the world against them! (which is sad to see be it that the year is 2012!)
In my opinion I think the US has been on a declining roll for a few decades now socially, and culturally, and it seems like they don't really care about it much.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trimac20
One common slogan you hear directed at certain immigrants here is 'we grew here, you flew here'. A good response to that is, at least they came in jumbo jets, not in chains in the hull of a boat.
When Australians talk about how they've been here 5 generations and are thus basically part of the land, it goes without saying the first Australians were here millenia before. Obviously, Australia and the New World were not culturally European to start with, so why shouldn't they be a free place for all who are willing to make it.
But Europe has nations and cultures which have existed for much longer. I know it's relative, but do you think this gives them more of a reason or a 'right' if you like to want to preserve their culture and demographics? I just can't imagine a France that is majority black or Muslim. It may be un-PC of me to say this but it would just seem wrong. An America that is more than 50% Hispanic could well have been the consequence anyway, America was never just meant for the white man, while the ethnic Germans, for instance, can at least have a better claim than Europe. I think Europeans have more of a right not to just let anyone in than countries like Australia, Canada, the US, NZ.etc. The UK is a good example of a country where in certain places Bengali is as commonly heard as English. It's not an entirely bad thing, but I wouldn't want it to become just a mini-world.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Yes...
.jpg)
with African born, Roman Emperor Septimus Severus. There were four other Black emperors after the Severus dynasty. 
as in.....? what is that going to do for them? I'll give you a short example: I-86 in Upstate NY...the portion that lies n Indian Reservation is in such disrepair that I feel I am abusing my car every time I drive through it!
They, the natives who live there, have a HUGE Casino, make tons of money and don't feel like spending a dime on the improvement of that road! Why is that? to spite the white people?
