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Old 03-02-2013, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Proposed Legislation Would Allow Arizona To Ignore Federal Laws : The Two-Way : NPR

I believe the above proposal was prompted (at least in part) by the assault weapons controversy. If such a ban ever was enacted into law, it would probably be ignored by a significant percentage of assault rifle owners in Arizona - for better or worse. Similar laws are being considered in other states as well.

I think the firearms issue has solidly polarized a good portion of the country. It's unfortunate to see this happen.
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:09 AM
 
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When it does happen it usually results in the federal government cutting off some federal funds to the state that doesn't follow the feds directive.
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:42 AM
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Location: Here.
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The legalization of marijuana is another example.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Under the Redwoods
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What a state can do has nothing to do with the federal government.
'Technically' states cannot go against federal law, but they do.
As mentioned, marijuana is a prime example.
I think some laws are good for all and should be followed, such as minimum wage.
But each state has it's own dynamics, culture and needs. Therefor there should be some give and take between the states and the FG.

As for the gun issue. I just want to pull my hair out. The pro-gunners feel like their constitutional right is being infringed upon, and the anti-gunners have no clue about life outside a major city.
I side with people who live in remote locations and their desire to own a high powered firearm. While I lived only 1 mile from a freeway, my closest neighbors were all a 5 minute drive and I have had bears and mountain lions in my yard. The mountain lion came right up to my bedroom window. In situations like this, such a gun could be a useful tool. But I really see no reason why the average person needs an automatic weapon. What are they going to use it for? What ever protection a person needs can be had with a more simple firearm.

Another big issue I have is that the only time that there is ever a big push for gun law reform when ever a white person goes on a slaughtering spree.
No one says anything when an Asian flips out, no one pays any attention to the violence between the black and Mexican gangs.

And if we outlaw them, people who want them will find a way to get them.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: NYC
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They can, State nullification.

You too have the power to nullify any law you deem unreasonable. It comes from the right to a trial by jury, jury nullification.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: texas
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I find it interesting that Arizona wants the original 1789 meaning the constitution without any consideration of all case law and precedent that came after.

Arizona was admitted into the Union in 1912. Maybe we should erase all American history form 1789 to 1912...
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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I find it interesting that Arizona wants the original 1789 meaning the constitution without any consideration of all case law and precedent that came after.

Arizona was admitted into the Union in 1912. Maybe we should erase all American history form 1789 to 1912...
Let's just annex Arizona to New Mexico. That ought to keep them busy for awhile.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Proposed Legislation Would Allow Arizona To Ignore Federal Laws : The Two-Way : NPR

I believe the above proposal was prompted (at least in part) by the assault weapons controversy. If such a ban ever was enacted into law, it would probably be ignored by a significant percentage of assault rifle owners in Arizona - for better or worse. Similar laws are being considered in other states as well.

I think the firearms issue has solidly polarized a good portion of the country. It's unfortunate to see this happen.
Arizona The new Confederate States of America. Or should I say the new Confederate State of America.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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It all depends on the will of the federal government to enforce the federal law no matter what the state law may be. Just think about what happened in Arizona regarding school desegration. Arizona asid, "No way" the government of the USA said you have no choice to obey this law and we will see that you do. In the end they sent in the army to enforce the "Federal" law. The only thing a State can do is challenge the law through the courts. This is often done and the SCOTUS makes the final decision.
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:11 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Let's just annex Arizona to New Mexico. That ought to keep them busy for awhile.
Better yet give Arizona back to Mexico or even better yet the Apaches and other Indians. Yeah, those anti Federal Arizonans sure cried for the Federal government when the Indians owned the place.
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