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Old 08-05-2013, 08:31 PM
 
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Is there any definitive opposite or antithesis to modern-day Internet adult-theme models, and/or cam girls? If so, what do you think would that be like, exactly?

The above are 2 cited themes are major reasons I wish that may times, the technology for the Internet had simply never been invented...I believe that it is inherently and horribly corrupting, a bad and soulless influence on young people, and particularly on young women Each cam girl is also someone's daughter, sister, mother, or other kind of relative or family member. It is very unfortunate that adult-themed websites and cam sites are not regulated the same way that prostitution is regulated, as a potentially-criminal offense...

To effectively combat this negative societal influence and ethical foundational decay, I personally believe that maybe we need to promote something of a concept similar to an "anti-camgirl" -- young women who are morally- and ethically-upstanding, who do not undress or take their clothes off for money online, and who can otherwise chat with or interact with other people online, but in a positive and friendly, non-lewd, and non-obscene manner...

Any thoughts / comments on the above items would be deeply appreciated -- thank you in advance for your feedback!
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Old 08-06-2013, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Is there any definitive opposite or antithesis to modern-day Internet adult-theme models, and/or cam girls? If so, what do you think would that be like, exactly?

The above are 2 cited themes are major reasons I wish that may times, the technology for the Internet had simply never been invented...I believe that it is inherently and horribly corrupting, a bad and soulless influence on young people, and particularly on young women Each cam girl is also someone's daughter, sister, mother, or other kind of relative or family member. It is very unfortunate that adult-themed websites and cam sites are not regulated the same way that prostitution is regulated, as a potentially-criminal offense...

To effectively combat this negative societal influence and ethical foundational decay, I personally believe that maybe we need to promote something of a concept similar to an "anti-camgirl" -- young women who are morally- and ethically-upstanding, who do not undress or take their clothes off for money online, and who can otherwise chat with or interact with other people online, but in a positive and friendly, non-lewd, and non-obscene manner...

Any thoughts / comments on the above items would be deeply appreciated -- thank you in advance for your feedback!
Is there any definitive opposite or antithesis to modern-day Internet adult-theme models, and/or cam girls? If so, what do you think would that be like, exactly?

Could be just regular chatrooms like Free Online Chat Rooms - Wireclub

It’s rather impossible to think pornography can be eradicated, especially on the Internet. The industry is too popular and too profitable.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:45 AM
 
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Is there any definitive opposite or antithesis to modern-day Internet adult-theme models, and/or cam girls? If so, what do you think would that be like, exactly?

Could be just regular chatrooms like Free Online Chat Rooms - Wireclub

It’s rather impossible to think pornography can be eradicated, especially on the Internet. The industry is too popular and too profitable.
Thanks for your intriguing input and feedback lily! FWIW, you are 100% right and I agree that it is unrealistic to expect that pornography will ever be eliminated from the Internet entirely. In MHO, it would still be nice though for society be able to provide a practical deterrent of sorts, to actively discourage young women from entering into the adult/cam industry to begin with. That's one reason why I thought that if young women had a potential non-camgirl alternative to becoming a famous or otherwise inspirational online personality, it might make make sense to give young women an alternative online lifestyle option to the existing camgirl one.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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This makes no sense to me. The internet is just a tool and it has a lot more uses than pornography. What if video cameras were never invented? Or electricity?
The Internet has caused an astronomical explosion in the amount of online adult content and the amount of young people actually performing in it, vs. in the past and through more old-school and traditional adult content mediums like Playboy, Hustler, and similar print magazines, as well as conventional/non-Internet adult videos. Webcams make it way too easy, tempting, and disinhibiting for young women who otherwise might have never become online adult models or camgirls at all under the older methods, vs. if the Internet and modern webcamming technologies had never been invented.
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Old 08-06-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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The webcam performers may be disrobing in their homes, but at the same time they are also broadcasting their unclothed bodies publicly over the Internet, using the Internet as a public medium and point of exchange. I therefore politely disagree that their peformances would be considered as non-public.
And you think it should be illegal for them do this? Its their body that they own, their webcam that they own, their internet subscription that they're paying for. The only people who are going to see it are the people looking for it. At what point do you think the police should be involved? This seems like you're trying to force your own morals and opinions on other total strangers, which is one of the most off-putting human traits. You get absolutely z.e.r.o. say in what these people do with their body, and you get absolutely z.e.r.o. say in which people look at their body. You're powerless to affect either party, as you should be, and it will stay that way. Cope.
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Old 08-06-2013, 01:24 PM
 
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And you think it should be illegal for them do this? Its their body that they own, their webcam that they own, their internet subscription that they're paying for. The only people who are going to see it are the people looking for it. At what point do you think the police should be involved? This seems like you're trying to force your own morals and opinions on other total strangers, which is one of the most off-putting human traits. You get absolutely z.e.r.o. say in what these people do with their body, and you get absolutely z.e.r.o. say in which people look at their body. You're powerless to affect either party, as you should be, and it will stay that way. Cope.
If a webcam performer also did what they do publicly over the Internet on the street in front of a live audience, they would be arrested by the police, in most U.S. locations, and unless those localities already do not specifically prevent public nudity. That is also reality. Cope. I am just calling a spade a spade -- why is it not publicly OK in the street in front of a live audience, but supposedly OK to do to a live audience publicly over the Internet?? The only difference is that one environment is virtual, the other actual.
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Old 08-06-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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If a webcam performer also did what they do publicly over the Internet on the street in front of a live audience, they would be arrested by the police, in most U.S. locations
Yes, of course. If I did in public what I do in the bathroom after I wake up each morning, I'd be arrested. If I did what I do in bed with my girlfriend on a public sidewalk, I'd be arrested. There a million things people do in their homes that they can't do in public. You have to seek out a cam girl on the internet, the people who see it are the ones that purposely go to the website. Its not as if it just randomly pops up in front of a kid who open up a browser window. The idea that someone in their own home would be legally barred from being naked in front of their webcam is a terrifying and nauseating idea reminiscent of the worst forms of religious repression.

I'm not saying its right, I'm not saying you're wrong to dislike it. But legislating personal morality is very dangerous.

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Old 08-06-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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Notice which part of your post I bolded. Your delusion is that this 'anti camgirl' idea of yours would have any effect on the girls stripping on their webcams or the people who patronize their services. It's so out of touch with reality I don't even know where to begin.
If you have any better ideas on how to curb the exponential growth of adult webcamming, a.k.a. Internet prostitution and pornography simply by another name, by all means, please feel free to elaborate...

Adult-oriented Webcam models can potentially represent a sick and depraved corrupting influence on young women, who may see the "camgirl lifestyle" as a glamorous and easy one, and full of easy money, and a ticket to instant online fame. How do you think that the adult industry is able to replenish its ranks with each new generation, after all? Adult webcams are thus a clear and present danger to young-adult women and men.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:09 PM
 
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One really cool thing about cam-girl sites is that if you don't like them, you don't have to use them. You also don't have to give women money for sex if you don't want to. I think it's pretty cool how that works.
That is certainly true. At the same time though, as adult web cams become more and more ubiquitous in society and are increasingly seen as more "normal" than not, today's young-adult people may run the risk of being desensitized to a large extent to them, and simply think "they are not a big deal". I wonder for instance if there are any major generational differences in perspective between my generation (Gen-X) and the Millennial and post-Millennial generations, in terms of whether adult webcamming in general is considered a good thing to them, or a bad thing, that should ideally be eliminated...
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:02 AM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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Well, I've had my Personal Trainer pull his shirt up and quickly send images of himself flexing, live-feed, I guess, to some girl... in-between my sets. Once, he ducked into the locker room, and sent her a picture of his junk. That girl showed up at the gym, with a very hungry look on her face. Lucky her. Lucky him. Lucky me, too: I went home and jumped my Husband with extra gusto that night. New fantasy for our roleplay. Soooo... lucky Hubby, too, I guess.

What I'm not grasping is why any of this is a bad thing. Those two probably had a fabulous time. Only parties charging for any of this were the wireless companies.

You're not realizing that a lot of the cam action is done for free, and probably REDUCES the market for prostitution. I hear the porn/prostitution industry is lobbying to shut down freedom of the net, because it cuts down on their business. Nobody wants their crappy product, when amateurs turn out a better product for free.

Heck: Ostriches and Sea Slugs (if they could hold a camera, and could figure out how to take Visa) probably could turn out more titillating product than do those sleazy idiots in the "Industry".

Don't play into the pornographers' hands, by letting them use you as a pawn, for shutting down freedom of the Internet.

And think of how much truth in other arenas would be censored, along with the feelthy peechers. The mainstream media would love to return to the days when their lying selves were our only sources of information.

One of the bright spots of my week is going in to have my 10-colors-of-black dye job at my Colorist's. He always has some fun 'find' on his laptop. If Internet Freedom were nonexistent, I'd never have known what Brett Favre's unit looks like (Thank you, Brett!!!!).... or the Austrian National Rugby team (wooooooooof!), or Prince Hottie - I mean 'Harry' (now there's perfection for you), or that gorgeous stallion of an Italian Count, who's always being photographed on the Riviera, in the all-together.

We live in an age of miracles, I tell you!

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