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Old 11-06-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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Lol the conspiracy theorists have come out to play I see.

Panic, plan, and stockpile all you like - it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference one way or the other except to make you all look paranoid and kind of foolish.

The guard at LAX was armed, trained, and ready to go...how many years training do we think he had? Proper training not backyard stuff?

All for nothing because the Freedom Nutjobs think their right to own an AK 47 outstrips the publics right to safety.

Crazy.
Just to keep the fact situation straight the TSA officer was not armed. TSA gate people are not armed. The TSA Union suggests that some should be. That would be a vast increase in training and salary cost for those people.

If you got the advantage on an armed officer you can undoubtedly kill him. Pretty much true whether an AR15 or a glock hand gun. You would however find it difficult if you don't move quickly or if there is more than one officer. Armed officers do often have on Kevlar vests which provide some protection.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:53 PM
 
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Lol the conspiracy theorists have come out to play I see.

Panic, plan, and stockpile all you like - it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference one way or the other except to make you all look paranoid and kind of foolish.

The guard at LAX was armed, trained, and ready to go...how many years training do we think he had? Proper training not backyard stuff?

All for nothing because the Freedom Nutjobs think their right to own an AK 47 outstrips the publics right to safety.

Crazy.
What is crazy is that you continue to be incorrect. Seriously, EVERY POINT YOU POSTED WAS INCORRECT:

Point one: "The Conspiracy Theorist" without the plural definition, since it was only one post. You can see at least two posts from gun owners that disagreed with his point of view here. The thought that all gun owners hold this extreemest view is in itself an extreemest view.

Point two: The person shot was not armed or trained to defend himself. TSA agents are not armed. They are not law enforcement officers in any sense of the word.

Point three: True AK47s are select fire weapons, which means they are regulated in the US and very difficult to own or obtain without proper federal licenses. AK47s are rarely if ever used in crimes, and no murder has every occured with one in the US. There are semi-auto variants of AK47's, but they are technically not AK47s.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:20 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Lol the conspiracy theorists have come out to play I see.

Panic, plan, and stockpile all you like - it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference one way or the other except to make you all look paranoid and kind of foolish.

The guard at LAX was armed, trained, and ready to go...how many years training do we think he had? Proper training not backyard stuff?

All for nothing because the Freedom Nutjobs think their right to own an AK 47 outstrips the publics right to safety.

Crazy.
So, in ghe interest of "public safety" I should turn in my AR 15? As should all of us who own such rifles? Tell me, how does my owning such a weapon endanger anyone, and how would taking it away from me make anyone safer? Neither I , or literally millions of people like me, who own and use these types of rigles, are a threat to anyone. Unless someone is trying go burt us or our loved ones. THEN, we can present a very real threat.

This conspiracy stuff is a VERY small bunch of people, and non firearms owners have conspiracy stuff uts amongst them as well. Obsession with various conspiracy theories is not a unique trait of the shooting community, and is only a VERY small part of that. Truthfully, though these might talk a lot, they are far less dangerous and prone to violence and destruction than the enviro conspiracy wackos.

Owning firearms, even thoze evil black rifles, does not make anyine a violent person by default. Mostly, it is quite the opposite.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:58 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Wow. Not one single opinion.


LAX was a complete setup by the feds in order to get the TSA armed and to get firearms out of the hands of the people.
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Curious thing - - - way back before government got into the "regulation and restriction" business, American people could buy, build or own CANNONS, DYNAMITE, FIREARMS (Assault weapons, too), SWORDS, KNIVES, BLUDGEONS, SLINGSHOTS, SPEARS, BOWS, etc, etc.

Were people just more civilized in those days?
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Waiting for a streetcar
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Unless someone is trying go burt us or our loved ones. THEN, we can present a very real threat.
Gun make me strong! Macho! Macho! Macho! Macho! HINT: Gun make you dead. People living in households with a gun are four time more likely to die of a gunshot would than people living in a household without guns. Those are the facts of the matter.
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Old 11-08-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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It's not "gun control" - it's "people control."
Until those pesky guns are neutered, "they" can't really clamp down.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/32149281-post226.html
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:03 AM
 
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There are many societies that no one owns a gun, and those societies do not see massacres and attempted massacres like this one. It's not a coincidence!

All of this is going to keep escalating until someone stands up and calls a halt to the internal Arms Race, before every man woman and child is directly affected by gun violence..
Ok. I would throw in my vote for a total gun ban in the US. Even a repeal of the second ammendment. As long as the gun ban is total, meaning no guns for law enforcement officers and stateside military, total. After all why would police need guns if guns are banned to all citizens? Because criminals follow the law right? (sarcasm added)

You can call me a conspiracy theorist but it is my opinion that at least a couple of these gun massacres may be government sponsored. And yes, the US gov't is that evil.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:39 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Wow. Not one single opinion.


sure thing.

get rid of all federal, state and local gun control laws and make it where the people going into LAX can carry if they so wish to. that way the shooter would not only have to contend with 1 armed guard, he would have to tend with multiple legal firearms owners shooting at him.
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