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Most indigenous Americans I know 'of a certain age' still prefer to be called 'Indian' in my experience, but most younger folk throw around the word 'Native'. Not Native American, just Native. The term 'American' seems not just dropped out of convenience for a shorter term, but a rejection. And among themselves (albeit in my presence), they tend to use their tribal names. Which are not the names -we- have for their tribes by the way.
These are all Navajo or Pueblo, by the way. I am sure there are personal, tribal, and/or regional preferences.
And as far as not calling actual Indians, Indians, what the hell else are we supposed to call them?
I saw the title of this thread and thought "Why would Indonesians want to call themselves Indians?"
But I knew what you were going after. Of course, Indonesian is a variation of East Indian and the Indus is no where near.
It just goes to show that labels can be awkward. I'm a white man, although my skin isn't really white so much as pink. I'm a Caucasian, although to my knowledge I have no ancestors from anywhere near the Caucasus Mountains.
I am an American. But I like to say I'm Irish when I get the chance, although I have never been to Ireland.
It's all pretty fun unless people take it too seriously.
Here's a question: why do Filipinos call themselves that? Yes they live in the Philippines, but the people have no connection with King Philip. Their history looks complicated, but I would think they could come up with a better identity.
I saw the title of this thread and thought "Why would Indonesians want to call themselves Indians?"
But I knew what you were going after. Of course, Indonesian is a variation of East Indian and the Indus is no where near.
It just goes to show that labels can be awkward. I'm a white man, although my skin isn't really white so much as pink. I'm a Caucasian, although to my knowledge I have no ancestors from anywhere near the Caucasus Mountains.
I am an American. But I like to say I'm Irish when I get the chance, although I have never been to Ireland.
It's all pretty fun unless people take it too seriously.
Here's a question: why do Filipinos call themselves that? Yes they live in the Philippines, but the people have no connection with King Philip. Their history looks complicated, but I would think they could come up with a better identity.
I have a black friend who refers to people as brown or beige.
I have a black friend who refers to people as brown or beige.
Beige. I like that!
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Originally Posted by mbradleyc
Here's a question: why do Filipinos call themselves that? Yes they live in the Philippines, but the people have no connection with King Philip. Their history looks complicated, but I would think they could come up with a better identity.
I chose the wrong word. I don't mean a "better" identity. Just more accurate, or maybe more native. Or maybe I should just shut up....
For me anyway. The subject is labels, and labels are a touchy subject. I like how you both touch on the subject without pronouncing edicts about what everyone should be doing.
This doesn't make any sense. Native Americans are not indians. They are only called indians because Christopher Columbus thought they were indians. East Indians are the original indians and therefore should be called indians. Native Americans should be called natives or native americans
How about them calling themselves american. After all they are now living in America. I dont identify myself as hungarian,irish,polish american as just wouldnt sound right.
I saw the title of this thread and thought "Why would Indonesians want to call themselves Indians?"
But I knew what you were going after. Of course, Indonesian is a variation of East Indian and the Indus is no where near.
It just goes to show that labels can be awkward. I'm a white man, although my skin isn't really white so much as pink. I'm a Caucasian, although to my knowledge I have no ancestors from anywhere near the Caucasus Mountains.
I am an American. But I like to say I'm Irish when I get the chance, although I have never been to Ireland.
It's all pretty fun unless people take it too seriously.
Here's a question: why do Filipinos call themselves that? Yes they live in the Philippines, but the people have no connection with King Philip. Their history looks complicated, but I would think they could come up with a better identity.
The country was named after Philip II. The original usage of Filipino was actually by Spanish creoles - as opposed to the peninsulares. Overtime, it was used to refer to the mestizos and in the advent of the Philippine revolution, extended to the natives.
Besides, many Filipinos strongly identify with their ethnic group - Cebuano, Tagalog, Ilocano, Chinese etc.. Filipino is a citizenship/nationality
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