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Old 03-21-2014, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I am from a dysfunctional area. The economy is in tatters, crime is through the roof, unemployment is high, wages are low, drug abuse is rampant, educational attainment is low - virtually any social or economic metric is negative in this location.

By all objective accounts, the area is a dysfunctional mess, and yet some people still stay there. If a person stays in a dysfunctional environment, relationship, job, etc, do they become dysfunctional by association?
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Old 03-22-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Here.
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It's more likely, but not inevitable. You can take advantage of the opportunity to learn from other's mistakes.
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Old 03-22-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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If children grow up in a dysfunctional family environment, there are no role models of functionality until the child hits kindergarten, and by then it's too late in my opinion. So dysfunctionality begets dysfunctionality. The only remedy is forced sterilization of people unfit to be parents, and in our society that would never fly.

Yes, I know: the OP is talking about economic dysfunction and I have shifted to personal dysfunction, but since the latter contributes greatly to the former they are related.
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Old 03-22-2014, 02:58 PM
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Location: 3rd rock from a nearby star
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Most people live and die with 100 miles of where they were born. Some move, but many stay. It's human nature.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:26 PM
 
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Simile in similibus.

There was interesting research done on rats. Researchers created a large "city" made out of glass covered tunnels and barrows, so that they could see rats behaviors.
Come to find, "family" rats inhabited outskirts of the city. Most aggressive rats took over its center, and were constantly involved in fights for dominance. Male "family rats will take occasional "trips" to "downtown" to partake in those.
Sounds somewhat familiar, doesn't it?

But yes, you always want to stick to better environment to become better yourself. Or you become just like the environment. Simile in similibus.
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Old 03-23-2014, 12:44 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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If children grow up in a dysfunctional family environment, there are no role models of functionality until the child hits kindergarten, and by then it's too late in my opinion. So dysfunctionality begets dysfunctionality. The only remedy is forced sterilization of people unfit to be parents, and in our society that would never fly.

Yes, I know: the OP is talking about economic dysfunction and I have shifted to personal dysfunction, but since the latter contributes greatly to the former they are related.
If a person is dysfunctional in one aspect, it is likely that this dysfunction bleeds over into other areas of their lives. IMO, it's much more likely that someone who is economically dysfunctional will also have personal dysfunctions.

I agree with the sterilization of the substandards.
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Old 03-23-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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I don't think so. I had a very good friend (he's since passed from cancer) who grew up in a ghetto area (he was white, if that makes a difference to anyone) who ended up going to college, but he wanted to stay in his old area, so that he could try to make it better and give back to the community, help other kids there do better, too as they grew up. I think if more people did that, it might make the areas better than if everyone who gets a good job "escapes" and leaves it only to the dysfunctional.
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Old 03-23-2014, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Dysfunctional is as dysfunctional does. So what else is new.

If you can honestly determine that you are being suppressed by dysfunctional family, friends and location collect all the money you have and only the physical items you really need and get the hell out of there. Leave and stay away. Alcoholics Anonymous can provide thousands of examples of people curing themselves of the effects of alcoholism by moving away from the familiar society and location where they were drinking.
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Old 03-23-2014, 11:03 PM
 
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I am from a dysfunctional area. The economy is in tatters, crime is through the roof, unemployment is high, wages are low, drug abuse is rampant, educational attainment is low - virtually any social or economic metric is negative in this location.

By all objective accounts, the area is a dysfunctional mess, and yet some people still stay there. If a person stays in a dysfunctional environment, relationship, job, etc, do they become dysfunctional by association?
When I read your post, the first city the came to mind was Indianapolis. Then, I looked at your location and, bingo. Indianapolis. Yes, I think you are dysfunctional if you stay in Indianapolis voluntarily. After all, there's no fence around the place.
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Old 03-24-2014, 12:00 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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When I read your post, the first city the came to mind was Indianapolis. Then, I looked at your location and, bingo. Indianapolis. Yes, I think you are dysfunctional if you stay in Indianapolis voluntarily. After all, there's no fence around the place.
Ok that made me laugh so hard! I'm sure the OP will be along to enlighten you with his version of the facts, the horrors of growing up in a small city in TN.
Myself, I'd love to drop the OP into an actual inner city ghetto to live for a while, let him get a real taste of what dysfunction can be.

If the following is true " dysfunctionality begets dysfunctionality. The only remedy is forced sterilization of people unfit to be parents" and "I agree with the sterilization of the substandards." what does that mean for the OP, since he is a product of his 'dysfunctional' area?
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