Is America more or less racist than other nations, such as European countries (Iraq, legal)
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Europe, especially the north, is more 'classically' racist (not a blond and blue eyed, you're inferior). America's racism is more aimed towards blacks and Mexicans (black to brown people).
My aunt's, who went to visit Germany, got some racism presumably because of their dark hair and olive skin. In other words, they didn't look German and also didn't speak the language. People gave them the 'eye' in the streets and retail/bank workers were rude to them. Maybe they were so paranoid but they said the "Germans just didn't like us". But odd, they had no problem in England and America.
I disagree. The Scandanavian countries were some of the least racist I encountered. The population was very educated, and progressive. The most racism I encountered was in Eastern and Southern Europe.
How much racism you encounter in the U.S. would depend on where in the U.S. you were.
Yes, it is true. People who deny this are usually white. Ask any minority where they've experienced more racism and over 80% will say the southern United States and rural areas of the remaining U.S. Racism is still very much part of the culture in the south although it's subdued and hidden more now. Nonetheless, even in the south, they have enough sense not waive nazi flags and throw bananas at players. As far as my experience, it's night and day difference. Being Mexican American, I experienced far more racism in places like Oklahoma, Texas, South Carolina, Arkansas and Georgia. The west coast and areas near there are the most racially tolerant in my experience.
It's quite bizarre to brand an entire continent as being racist as a result of the occasional hooligan at a sporting event.
Sporting organisations,particularly soccer ones,work incredibly hard to stamp out racist behaviour and clubs and countries are often punished heavily for the behaviour of their fans.
Racism is no more or less of a problem than it is in many parts of the USA.
I do think Europeans are more tolerant of different cultures and races by the simple fact there are so many of them on the continent and after two major wars there is a great emphasis on co-operation and collaboration to prevent such things happening again.
Americans,if I may say so without trying to generalise,are less aware of what goes on outside their own borders - I find that coverage of foreign news not involving America is very sparse.
And with only around 35% of Americans owning passports compared to say 60% of Canadians or 75% of Britons there is clearly less interest among Americans in travelling abroad.
Of course you could say what does it matter and you're right - except it goes some way towards explaining the surprise of many Americans when they travel abroad for the first time to discover their country is not as popular or welcomed as the news media would have you believe.
Anti-American sentiment has never been higher and I know of many American friends who are nonplussed when they find out.
This was not an "occasional hooligan" Clearly you didn't watch the video because those were SECTIONS of fans that held up that nazi flag. It was not one hooligan who yelled racist terms and was kicked out of the game. And this was not an isolated event. This takes place routinely at many European soccer matches. It has gotten so bad that FIFA finally had to intervene at the behest of black soccer players. If you observed at the World Cup, FIFA signs saying to end racism because it's so prevalent in European soccer.
And you fail to see the bigger picture. These people made a flag and held it up throughout the game. They feared no retribution, jail time or any form of incarceration. That is a reflection of the society at large; that these forms are not punishable; the fans were not escorted out of the game. It's tolerated there. In the United States, that scene would not be found. First, the fans would be embarrassed to hold that flag even if they agreed with those views because of their awareness of our society's intolerance for it. Second, if it did occur here, the fans would be ejected or even imprisoned. Third, the national media would cover it. In Europe, none of the three occurred.
At the same time in Europe (or Italy for sure) you will never find a wall between two countries, you'll never have people mercilessly sent back to their country (all those children from Central America?), you'll never have so massive ghettos, you'll never have jails massively filled with a unique racial group like in the US.
The episodes Oldhag1 suffered are indeed shameful but he spoke about two countries (Germany and Italy) which together number 140 million, i.e. little less than half of the US) starting from two episodes.
At the same time in the United States, you will not find the governor of Texas waging "ethnic cleansing " ie murdering hundreds of thousands of people for their religion as what occurred in the Balkans in the mid 1990's.
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Originally Posted by jerseygal4u
I think when people think "racism" they think black and white.
The Youtube pic is actually Anti semitic,big difference.
WRONG! Those fans were protesting the black soccer players on the field. Furthermore, the nazi's views were not limited to Jews. Hitler tried to ban Black athletes from participating in the Olympics.
This was an excellent investigational piece by ESPN's Jeremy Schaap. Every American should watch this video. It will make you appreciate your country that much more. There is no major sporting contest in this country where an entire section of fans are holding up nazi flags and throwing bananas on the field at black players. In this country, they would stop the game before they would allow anyone in the crowd to do that. And that person would be handcuffed and taken to jail. Europe is incredibly racist.
The problem is, your implication that "racism" is a one way street. Racism is not strictly the attitude of whites towards blacks. It can be the other way around. Why not consider the treatment and murders of whites in countries like Zimbabwe, Zambia or other African countries? Whites have to live in communes in South Africa to be safe. People of European background have always been treated poorly in places like India, China, Japan or throughout most of Asia. The irony of course, is that a lot of these people would love to move to a country that is predominantly white though.
People like to delude themselves to believe so, but there's racism everywhere. Folks from certain parts of the US just choose to ignore it or downplay it in order to criticize other parts of the US
There is racism all over the USA but you must admit that Confederate flag waving small towns in parts of the rural South disguise their racism much less.
The problem is, your implication that "racism" is a one way street. Racism is not strictly the attitude of whites towards blacks. It can be the other way around. Why not consider the treatment and murders of whites in countries like Zimbabwe, Zambia or other African countries? h.
In the African nations where there is a back lash against the whites, when these places were white controlled blacks were treated horrendously. In addition most of the violence in these nations is black on black In Zimbabwe far more black farm workers were killed than white owners by people attempting to take over the farms.
So don't equate white racism against blacks in Europe and North America with this. Blacks didn't begin the fight in Europe and North America.
When it comes to black vs. white racism there is no chicken and egg. It is clear that white racism came first. Look at how willing West and West/Central Africans were to sell slaves from rival nations, or fellow ethnics who they felt needed to get punished to whites. Obviously these blacks didn't think that the whites were any more the enemy than were blacks from rival states. They didn't trust the whites, so prevented them from moving inland, but they quite happily traded and there seems to have been minimal conflict during the slave trading eras.
European racism is outer and western racism is hidden.Western nations are quick to tout diversity, but I have had systems in place for 100 of years to keep irish, Blacks and Hispanics behind
Read up on Jim Crow era Laws!
I thought I read somewhere there is a resurgence of Neo-Nazis in Germany. Well, maybe they have never really left?
I wonder where you heard that? Election results indicate a totally different story.
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