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Old 01-26-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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I read and commented on a reference in another thread to a child being born as being deaf and dumb.
My own response was deleted - it did go somewhat off track - and I believe it's an important question, so here's a thread for the question. Are you okay with this label? Why or why not?

Last edited by PeaceOut001; 01-26-2015 at 03:48 PM.. Reason: Sorry for thread label. Brain's going out to lunch. "Is it okay..." is how it should begin.

 
Old 01-26-2015, 03:51 PM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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It used to be considered acceptable, but I think the acceptable word these days is mute.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Squirrel Hill PA
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Not all deaf people are dumb/mute. Dumb/mute means to not have the power of speech. Many hearing impaired people are able to learn how to speak. I would think if they were born dumb that that meant that they did not have even the capacity to learn to communicate vocally.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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I'm following and will respond manana. I do appreciate Tia 914 and shadowfax (interested ID) response thus far. This is cool to me and likely a learning transition for us. Thanks.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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dumb is usually thought to mean "stupid"

that isn't correct since "unable to speak" does not mean low IQ.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PeaceOut001 View Post
I read and commented on a reference in another thread to a child being born as being deaf and dumb.
My own response was deleted - it did go somewhat off track - and I believe it's an important question, so here's a thread for the question. Are you okay with this label? Why or why not?
Dumb in that sense used to refer to a person who's speech was impaired as a result of being unable to hear others speaking.

People then started using that condition as an insult. Next thing you know, people use the insult in every day language and the name for the condition changed in order to to differentiate the people with the real condition from the every day insult.

Sound familiar? It should because this is the same way "mentally challenged" and other words have become the new politically correct term. People always use analogies as a way to insult others, then the people who are considered the insult(or close friends with them) look for a new way to define themselves that's separate from the insult.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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If they can speak, then they are NOT dumb or mute....they are simply deaf.

Maybe you shouldn't call them anything....just respond as best you can. Most deaf folks read lips VERY well. One of our employees knows exactly what we say from great distances! He's amazing!
 
Old 01-26-2015, 04:37 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Not Great Debates material. OP if you have a forum you want to have this moved to DM me.
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