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I do not get it. Whites and Asians are the highest educated and make more money than Blacks and Hispanics and yet it is the poor minorities who have a a bunch of babies. Whites and Asians should realistically be having the most babies since they are better equipped at caring for their children economically. Have we created a system that encourages and rewards minorities to have many babies? If we stopped paying the hospital bills of those who can't afford children without government help would that help lower their birth rates? It really makes no sense why our tax dollars have to fund those who should not be having children and it really makes me angry. The media is constantly talking about the "browning" of America but in the end we are subsidizing it?
Your whole argument is racist and an outright distortion. Why are you assuming every single Latino and black person is poor and on welfare? People who have a lot of kids are usually well off people who can afford it. Poorer people have smaller families or put off having kids. Also, birth rates are virtually the same across races. Younger populations are becoming increasingly non-white because of immigration, not high birth rates. Whites have a fertility rate of 1.8, blacks have 2.1 and Latinos have 2.4, virtually the same. http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/...-white-births/
Having Obama in office is likely bringing the fertility gap even closer as he's done a great deal to provide better access to family planning. I think if a Republican gets into the White House, Americans will be subsidizing quite a few more kids.
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Again, to repeat, I tie it to recreation. For black men sex is recreation since they don't help with the kids. The women may not have the physical strength to resist a hormone-fueled, 6'3" 16 year old.
I get it. The women have nothing but good intentions, they're actually trying to start families within marriage and all that good stuff. This should be obvious to most when you consider how they dress, talk and behave.
On births outside of wedlock:
"The black community's 72 percent rate eclipses that of most other groups: 17 percent of Asians, 29 percent of whites, 53 percent of Hispanics and 66 percent of Native Americans were born to unwed mothers in 2008, the most recent year for which government figures are available. The rate for the overall U.S. population was 41 percent." Blacks struggle with 72 percent unwed mothers rate - Health - Women's health | NBC News
Personally, I don't care as much about the marriage stats as much as I do the broader sociological and psychological effects of such abundance in non-asian single-mother households.
Ok, but how does that give any credence to this claim of yours: "majority of black men have many baby mommas"
What do you have say about the fact that Native American's are very close to Blacks in out of wedlock birth rate, that makes it pretty clear that it's not just a 'black thing'. What both groups have in common is a very high poverty rate and high unemployment rate. (by the way, I think your data was from 2010 and the % dropped a fair amount in 2012
I just don't think you can make it a racial issue, it is far more complex and nuanced than that.
wow..what a generalization that is. One of my best friends is an older black man who not only raised his own two children but went on to mentor black boys from fatherless homes and after retiring became a school teacher in an inner city junior high in order to provide black teens with a role model.
Shame on you for your racist BS. Seeing all the young white baby mamas it seems like sex as recreation is not just a black thang
Are you saying that doesn't happen fairly often? Or are you on a politically correct binge to feel good?
Are you saying that doesn't happen fairly often? Or are you on a politically correct binge to feel good?
Well, singling out Black men, saying only for them that sex was a recreational activity, sounds like a broad generalization. No mention or distinction between hood rat Blacks and normal Blacks. Just Blacks across the board.
wow..what a generalization that is. One of my best friends is an older black man who not only raised his own two children but went on to mentor black boys from fatherless homes and after retiring became a school teacher in an inner city junior high in order to provide black teens with a role model.
Shame on you for your racist BS. Seeing all the young white baby mamas it seems like sex as recreation is not just a black thang
Read a book called The Other Wes Moore (link to Goodreads discussion). The author of the book, Wes Moore, became a Rhodes scholar. His namesake fathered a bunch of children as a teen and is now serving a life sentence for murder. Sadly, his situation is probably common. It is not "racism" to point that out.
Read a book called The Other Wes Moore (link to Goodreads discussion). The author of the book, Wes Moore, became a Rhodes scholar. His namesake fathered a bunch of children as a teen and is now serving a life sentence for murder. Sadly, his situation is probably common. It is not "racism" to point that out.
Actually, claiming that the majority of Black men do this is racism if you cannot produce a statistic that says that the majority of Black men do that. Not "72 percent of Black children are born out of wedlock" or "50 percent of Black children are raised without their fathers". Prove that the majority of Black men father children and walk off. And how many Black men did what the father of that Rhodes scholar did?
Are you saying that doesn't happen fairly often? Or are you on a politically correct binge to feel good?
saying that what happens? that black men have 'recreational' sex, or that they don't take care of kids? I'm sorry but that is so laughable that it doesn't even deserve an answer
Ok, but how does that give any credence to this claim of yours: "majority of black men have many baby mommas"
What do you have say about the fact that Native American's are very close to Blacks in out of wedlock birth rate, that makes it pretty clear that it's not just a 'black thing'. What both groups have in common is a very high poverty rate and high unemployment rate. (by the way, I think your data was from 2010 and the % dropped a fair amount in 2012
I just don't think you can make it a racial issue, it is far more complex and nuanced than that.
You're attributing a claim to me that somebody else made in the thread. I was simply chiming in about a legitimate, related concern that seems to impact all non-asians.
And how many Black men did what the father of that Rhodes scholar did?
You mean die suddenly and tragically of a disease?
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