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Wow, so many people in here are completely disconnected from the causes and effects of criminality. Certainly it sounds like not a one of you is able to speak factually from the criminal perspective. This thread is a display of so much ignorance...
Wow, so many people in here are completely disconnected from the causes and effects of criminality. Certainly it sounds like not a one of you is able to speak factually from the criminal perspective. This thread is a display of so much ignorance...
Interesting comment. Does having worked in two correctional facilities and had direct contact with the thugs count for something? Or does one have to be a thug to qualify. If so, where are all the rehabilitated and free education thugs? Can they even read?
Having said the above, I totally agree with you about the disconnected people. In their rose-colored world, victims are nothing, and the thug needs all kinds of special consideration.
Interesting comment. Does having worked in two correctional facilities and had direct contact with the thugs count for something? Or does one have to be a thug to qualify. If so, where are all the rehabilitated and free education thugs? Can they even read?
Having said the above, I totally agree with you about the disconnected people. In their rose-colored world, victims are nothing, and the thug needs all kinds of special consideration.
El Nox
You're speaking to a rehabilitated, free education "thug", and I'd guess that me being in this thread proves I can read...
Having worked in two prisons counts for "something". It means that you already have a preconceived notion of crime and criminals, in all likelihood...
Some posters on this thread seem to think that our prison costs are being paid for by the Chinese, that it doesn't effect their pocketbooks, in the least. The way some talk: Put them in prison, thrown away the key! And many are unaware of the costs: with both direct/indirect costs, $40-$50k a year per inmate!
I believe, in Texas, in the early 80's, during an unexpected whopper of a recession, thousands were released from their prisons, due to severe budget deficits.
Doesn't that scare anyone? The idea of any state suffering such a budget shortfall, they're forced to open the prison doors?
God forbid, we should sink into another Great Depression!
Easy to forget: Prisons are a luxury to any society!
Moderator cut: Trolling we all committ, on average, 3 felonies every day. That bootlegged movie or software? that's a felony. Disguising your ID on the net as you are doing right NOW, is a felony.
Please give more examples of what you mean because as far as I know, I have never committed even one felony in my entire life, let alone an average of even one per day.
You're speaking to a rehabilitated, free education "thug", and I'd guess that me being in this thread proves I can read...
Great. Now again it is your turn, how many of your peers are like you?
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Originally Posted by murksiderock
Having worked in two prisons counts for "something". It means that you already have a preconceived notion of crime and criminals, in all likelihood...
"preconceived notion" is hardly the case. My notion is the result of direct experience. I've had my fill of 'born again' thugs who found Jesus/Mohammed/Rastafarius/Elijah Mohammed and the rest of the crew in the joint AND LEFT THEM THERE WHEN THEY GOT OUT. I have watched the same thugs return after release ... some arrested at the same corner selling the same drugs from the same supplier who "took care" of their women while they were in the joint the first time.
Small point ... the is exactly how I could feel about your post. I say 'could feel' because it is possible that YOU are the exception to the rule. However, in my experience, I haven't come across one like you.
Some posters on this thread seem to think that our prison costs are being paid for by the Chinese, that it doesn't effect their pocketbooks, in the least. The way some talk: Put them in prison, thrown away the key! And many are unaware of the costs: with both direct/indirect costs, $40-$50k a year per inmate!
I believe, in Texas, in the early 80's, during an unexpected whopper of a recession, thousands were released from their prisons, due to severe budget deficits.
Doesn't that scare anyone? The idea of any state suffering such a budget shortfall, they're forced to open the prison doors?
God forbid, we should sink into another Great Depression!
Easy to forget: Prisons are a luxury to any society!
I mostly agree ... however ... Sheriff Joe has the right idea.
Wow, so many people in here are completely disconnected from the causes and effects of criminality. Certainly it sounds like not a one of you is able to speak factually from the criminal perspective. This thread is a display of so much ignorance...
If you would be more specific about what you are talking about perhaps we could address your concerns.
Dismissing experience from the legal side of the issue for preconceived notions rather than factual experience is hardly fair. It would be like saying since you have been on the other side of the fence you are the one with slanted opinions.
Do you believe that the causes of criminality should excuse criminals from legal consequences?
i believe drug dealers should get a minimum of 25 years, even for an ounce of weed, i think if a person overdose of your drugs, you should get the dead penatly. I would go has far as caught smoking weed a minimum of ten years. yes our prison have a lot of people in them, that just mean they are doing a damn good job.
Let me guess, small government conservative?
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Originally Posted by tijlover
Some posters on this thread seem to think that our prison costs are being paid for by the Chinese, that it doesn't effect their pocketbooks, in the least. The way some talk: Put them in prison, thrown away the key! And many are unaware of the costs: with both direct/indirect costs, $40-$50k a year per inmate!
I believe, in Texas, in the early 80's, during an unexpected whopper of a recession, thousands were released from their prisons, due to severe budget deficits.
Doesn't that scare anyone? The idea of any state suffering such a budget shortfall, they're forced to open the prison doors?
God forbid, we should sink into another Great Depression!
Easy to forget: Prisons are a luxury to any society!
Bingo.
The US has the highest prison population. Why is that when we don't have the highest crime rate? And I don't want people saying our crime rate is low because we put them in prison because that's not true. We've never come close to having the highest crime rate. We've never had a reason to put this many people in jail for as long as we do until we made some up.
Seriously, the US has slightly more crime than European countries, but have substantially more prisoners than Russia. Russia! The country that Soviet wannabe Vladimir Putin is 'president' of. We have more people in jail than that country and we're just totally ok with it.
The usual solution is longer sentencing which really does nothing but cost money. If you put a thief in jail and do nothing to make him stop stealing, it doesn't matter if he's in prison for 5 years, 10 years, or 30 years. Without any 'correction' they remain the same, regardless of prison time. This basically means we're too lazy to solve the problem, so we'll just shove it under our beds for the time being. We could try and rehabilitate them by reforming our prisons, with the knowledge that counties that prioritize rehabilitation have had great success with it, would be worth it in the long run. Might cost some up front, but if it brings recidivism down, we're still spending less money down the road. And of course, smarter sentencing laws. In Europe, 10-14 years is considered a long time. In the US, it's merciful. That needs to change. Also, drug laws need to be re-examined.
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And many are unaware of the costs: with both direct/indirect costs, $40-$50k a year per inmate!
