Ferguson/Michael Brown 1 year later.

[Caleb Longstreet]

Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd

It has already been a year since the gentle giant as they called him robbed a store, refused orders from a a police man, attacked that officer and paid the ultimate price for his angry mistake.

A year later and what has changed in Ferguson and the country?

A year after Michael Brown's death, Ferguson has changed


In Ferguson there was a shake up in the police dept and at city hall. The street where the shooting happened has plans to be beautified, some of the looted and burned out businesses have rebuilt while others have packed up for good.

Black citizens say nothing has changed and they are still being profiled by the Police.
The shooting has affected Fergusons bottom line with a short fall of $700,000 in tickets being written due to the Police being nervous about causing another incident in a racial charged atmosphere. It is not a good thing when Police choose to look the other way when crimes, even petty ones are committed.


Did the protesting, looting and rioting the hashtag "hands up don't shoot" slogan do anything for race relations in Ferguson and America? did it highlight a real problem or has it created a greater divide?

I feel "hands up don't shoot" and "black lives matter" movement has divided the country more and has put racism on everyones mind to the point if there is any perceived slight and the people involved are different colours the ugly word of RACISM is screamed out.

One year later are we as a nation of many colours any better off?

Thanks to our president, the great divider, race relations haven't been this bad in 50 years. Between him sending holder and his goons to nail Darren Wilson which ultimately failed and ruined this officers life and his constant weighing in on any black male being shot by a white cop/citizen/ hash tag anything white and completely ignoring the white officer shot and killed by a black man in Memphis two weeks ago, it's hopeless until he leaves.

The current administration has a chip on their shoulders about whites. Period. And everyone knows it. The black mayor of Baltimore and that federal judge emboldened black violence. Baited it on. No. This is only the beginning and the seeds of hate have been sown, again. Both ways. It will take us decades to get back to where we were just 7 years ago. The country was moving on fairly well. Mixed relations hardly raised an eyebrow.

Now? Christ, you can smell the anger and tension simmering everywhere you go but now, it's confrontational. It's palatable. Look at the murders in Chicago. 10 last week with 83 wounded. In one week. And noooo one says a word. The white house hasn't made a sound.

Now I ask you, what does it say when a sitting president takes shots at whitey whenever possible with the media backing him and guns proliferating at every gun show? Ammo prices are creeping down and people are arming to the teeth. They are not all collectors you know and it's only a matter of time before they are employed. That sick kid in south Carolina's church proves it. Gun sales are fine. It's the seitgeist of the times that is scary.

Trump is being born out of frustration, Hillary is a criminal, and firing is all the rage. So much for the war on women. War from women might be appropos.....race relations? Fading....fast.

[tijlover]

Originally Posted by NCN

Who cares. I am so tired of hearing about this. Time to give it a rest. They are demonstrating in Charlotte and the trial isn't even over yet. When will black people join the rest of America in leaving legal things to the courts? I don't agree with every thing that happens but nothing is perfect and we just have to depend on the best our system provides. If you are going to live in a civilized country then you need to learn to be civilized. Demonstrating for a year about one incident is not civilized. Stop demonstrating, get a job, and help a starving child.

1. Leave things to the courts? With all the accepted/expected prosecutorial misconduct in this country? Dream on!!!!

2. You need to be civilized in a civilized country? What law states it's a must to be civilized in civilized country?

White people, in particular, will scream, holler, shake their fists, throw tantrums as this statement: Violence is the only answer for long-term changes to result!

Get a job? I'm sure there's been some black people, in Ferguson, who went out one morning, in their cars, to find a job. They didn't get very far and they were pulled over for not using their turning signals and walloped with a huge fine they're unable to pay!

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Caleb Longstreet

Thanks to our president, the great divider, race relations haven't been this bad in 50 years. Between him sending holder and his goons to nail Darren Wilson which ultimately failed and ruined this officers life and his constant weighing in on any black male being shot by a white cop/citizen/ hash tag anything white and completely ignoring the white officer shot and killed by a black man in Memphis two weeks ago, it's hopeless until he leaves.

The current administration has a chip on their shoulders about whites. Period. And everyone knows it. The black mayor of Baltimore and that federal judge emboldened black violence. Baited it on. No. This is only the beginning and the seeds of hate have been sown, again. Both ways. It will take us decades to get back to where we were just 7 years ago. The country was moving on fairly well. Mixed relations hardly raised an eyebrow.

Now? Christ, you can smell the anger and tension simmering everywhere you go but now, it's confrontational. It's palatable. Look at the murders in Chicago. 10 last week with 83 wounded. In one week. And noooo one says a word. The white house hasn't made a sound.

Now I ask you, what does it say when a sitting president takes shots at whitey whenever possible with the media backing him and guns proliferating at every gun show? Ammo prices are creeping down and people are arming to the teeth. They are not all collectors you know and it's only a matter of time before they are employed. That sick kid in south Carolina's church proves it. Gun sales are fine. It's the seitgeist of the times that is scary.

Trump is being born out of frustration, Hillary is a criminal, and firing is all the rage. So much for the war on women. War from women might be appropos.....race relations? Fading....fast.

You're so naive.

There's a huge difference -- that you don't see as a White person -- between race matters seeming to be "okay" superficially, and what is percolating under the surface. Superficially race issues seemed better before Obama. And then when a Black was actually elected to the presidency, the racists have come out in full force -- shattering was had been the appearance of near normalcy.

But even if you were right about this administration having a chip on its shoulder about race -- which you're not -- how is that different from the chips on shoulders against Blacks over hundreds of years in this country. A little different when the chip is on the opposite shoulder, isn't it?

You don't like Blacks and you don't like women having a little more power. Hurts, doesn't it, when you're not as much in control.

[Airborneguy]

It's easy to believe that the Obama administration doesn't have a racist chip on it's shoulder if one ignores the evidence - which includes incontrovertible videos as so many now demand of the police - that his chip is the size of Gibraltar.

[Caleb Longstreet]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

You're so naive.

There's a huge difference -- that you don't see as a White person -- between race matters seeming to be "okay" superficially, and what is percolating under the surface. Superficially race issues seemed better before Obama. And then when a Black was actually elected to the presidency, the racists have come out in full force -- shattering was had been the appearance of near normalcy.

But even if you were right about this administration having a chip on its shoulder about race -- which you're not -- how is that different from the chips on shoulders against Blacks over hundreds of years in this country. A little different when the chip is on the opposite shoulder, isn't it?

You don't like Blacks and you don't like women having a little more power. Hurts, doesn't it, when you're not as much in control.

You give yourself too much credit. For the record, Carly Fiorina is fine with me. But, so was Condoleeza rice. As well as the African American woman in Nevada serving in congress I believe. Refreshing one and all. The woman thing is as worn out as playing the race card. Get over it.

As far as the president with a chip on his shoulder, I think I'm right.

No one said race relations were perfect. There are racists on both sides. Oh wow, I said that. Yes, blacks can be racist too, can't they? Or is that the ultimate hypocrisy? But, race relations have improved since 1960 right up to about 2008. Don't forget, those racist whites you point at actually carried your guy in? If every black in America voted color lines (95% of the eligible black voters did, twice) you could never get a black elected without the HELP from liberal whites. Good thing we don't vote our color huh? Can you imagine? You wouldn't have a single black anything if we did.

So while you whine away and gloat over minor victories made mostly by liberal whites, I wouldn't put too much credit towards the blacks. They can't do it without liberal whites and their help which speaks volumes about them and less about your simmering rage and the perverse justifications therein, doesn't it?

[Lodestar]

Originally Posted by tijlover

1. Leave things to the courts? With all the accepted/expected prosecutorial misconduct in this country? Dream on!!!!

2. You need to be civilized in a civilized country? What law states it's a must to be civilized in civilized country?

White people, in particular, will scream, holler, shake their fists, throw tantrums as this statement: Violence is the only answer for long-term changes to result!

Get a job? I'm sure there's been some black people, in Ferguson, who went out one morning, in their cars, to find a job. They didn't get very far and they were pulled over for not using their turning signals and walloped with a huge fine they're unable to pay!

What you've just done in this post is the same thing that was done in Ferguson. You've created your own private version of reality, not presented any evidence and then believed it. An occasional case of misconduct doesn't make a whole system corrupt any more than an occasional Michael Brown makes all Black people criminal bullies.

Both Eric Holder and President Obama would have made sure that the officer who shot Michael Brown was convicted of murder if there were any way that he actually committed murder. That's why they intervened. To make sure justice was served. Even Brown's family's autopsy report indicated that Michael was not running away or raising his hands when he was shot. Read the evidence.

You certainly must understand that the purpose of all laws is to create a safe and civilized society. That is for the benefit of Black people as well as for other people.

Violence is the solution? Your choice. We all get to pick. There's no screaming, hollering, shaking of fists or throwing tantrums. That's all in your head. People who support justice are a lot quieter than the crowd that supports Michael Brown.

Some of us will always chose violence right or wrong just because they are violent people. The results of that choice may not be very pleasant for the perpetrator though. As long as some people believe it is a solution and not the problem we will have our Michael Browns.

[Jeo123]

Thread closed. While topics along these lines are permitted, they REQUIRE civility, and the number of personal attacks in this thread have not met that requirement.