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Old 02-27-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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I really, really don't know why it's ok to use a
racial slur against white Americans & no other group.
I used to live in a predominantly Latino neighborhood.
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The term is most often used by whites to describe a certain type of white sub culture. Call it classist, maybe even biased in region (most link it to the Appalachians or the South).


But racist! No way.
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Old 02-27-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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It's called white trash with cash. Ex: The Kardashians


Ha love how the Kardashians have convinced everyone theyre White. Theyre not, theyre half arab. Armenian to be precise.
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Old 02-27-2016, 02:26 PM
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Ha love how the Kardashians have convinced everyone theyre White. Theyre not, theyre half arab. Armenian to be precise.
You don't know what your talking about. How exactly are Armenians related to Arabs. You sound so misinformed.
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Old 02-27-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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You don't know what your talking about. How exactly are Armenians related to Arabs. You sound so misinformed.

Armenians are not considered White where I live. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...


Love how you assume the Kardashian bloodline is Pure Armenian. If you are actually educated you know the Armenians came from an area called Transcaucus considered Asian.


Armenia was invaded by Turkey therefore bloodline is no longer "clean" and hasn't been for centuries really. Just like the rest of us I suppose.


But they are not generally considered Caucasian, Russia does not recognize them as Caucasian any more than they do Turks and they are the nearest White Superpower so I suppose their opinion counts.


It would be interesting to do a DNA test on the Kardashians but Blind Freddy knows that skin tone is Not Caucasoid, nor are chocolate brown eyes and black hair which suggests to my unknowledgable eye Middle Eastern influence rather than Asian (round eyes). Armenia is geographically surrounded by Middle Eastern Countries.


Depending on what part of the Century it is I suppose. But they are NOT considered Caucasian, where I live. Western Asian, maybe.
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Old 02-27-2016, 03:14 PM
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Armenians are not considered White where I live. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...


Love how you assume the Kardashian bloodline is Pure Armenian. If you are actually educated you know the Armenians came from an area called Transcaucus considered Asian.


Armenia was invaded by Turkey therefore bloodline is no longer "clean" and hasn't been for centuries really. Just like the rest of us I suppose.


But they are not generally considered Caucasian, Russia does not recognize them as Caucasian any more than they do Turks and they are the nearest White Superpower so I suppose their opinion counts.


It would be interesting to do a DNA test on the Kardashians but Blind Freddy knows that skin tone is Not Caucasoid, nor are chocolate brown eyes and black hair which suggests to my unknowledgable eye Middle Eastern influence rather than Asian (round eyes). Armenia is geographically surrounded by Middle Eastern Countries.


Depending on what part of the Century it is I suppose. But they are NOT considered Caucasian, where I live. Western Asian, maybe.
1. Paragraph #1 and #3 sounds like racist ideology bull. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...(well you know how the saying goes). Where do you live?

2. I mentioned nothing about about the Armenian "bloodline". To my knowledge Russians use the term white not "Caucasian". You may want to inform yourself on the fact that the Caucasus and the upper Levant is exactly where Early European Farmers the Neolithic component of Europeans are from(which btw is a substantial component found in all European populations).

3. I see you going into a rant about who is considered white and who is not.(Quack,Quack) My question was how exactly are Armenians related to Arabs? You answered that Armenia is surrounded by Middle Eastern countries the last sentence in paragraph five(where you state Armenia is surrounded by Arab countries). Armenia is surrounded by Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Iran. Which one of those is an Arab country?

4. I'm not Armenian btw but I can't let your post go unchallenged.
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Old 02-28-2016, 11:08 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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The term does not offend me. I am white, and on occasion, I have used it, and the way some people in this country are living their lives? I will most likely use it in the future.

It does not offend me. Is it racist? No. Is it classiest? There are two kinds of class. Economic and social. To me, and to many, it is not a slur against poor people.
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:44 PM
 
Location: 78745
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Why do we still use the term "white trash" to describe a poor white person? Why should we call someone "trash" just because they are poor? Why aren't middle class and upper class whites who have unfavorable personality traits considered "white trash" as well? I feel this is not fair as a poor white person can be a person with good morals and decency and still be labeled "white trash" meanwhile an upper class white person who is backstabbing, promiscuous, rude, and just shows no class might not be considered "white trash" or if anything people might say they act like "white trash" but since they aren't poor they are still not considered "white trash" at least by some. In an age of growing tolerance I still don't see why poor whites are considered "trash." It might even be racist since there is no widespread usage of the terms "Hispanic trash" or "black trash", it almost seems like Hispanics and blacks are expected to already be trash. Any thoughts or opinions?
Rednecks, hillbillies, hill jacks, white trash are all duragatory names used by white people to describe other white people who think they are a notch or two above the afore mentioned terms.

I will give you an example. There is at least one white woman who posts regularly in this city-data forum, she claims to be a liberal but often uses the term "hill jacks" to describe low class whites from small towns and the country. Everytime I see her use that word, I always think to myself, if she was to use a duragatory term to describe blacks, she would probably have her screen name blocked permanently by the powers that be, at city data forum.

Such a hypocrite that woman is.
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Old 03-06-2016, 02:53 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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A lot of people self identify as redneck or hillbilly and do not consider those to be derogatory terms. They are about lifestyle/geographic origins. My grandmother still proudly tells people she's a Kentucky hillbilly even though she hasn't lived there in over 60 yrs. She would be insulted that you find the word hillbilly to be a slur, she is proud of her roots..
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Old 03-06-2016, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb The term "white trash" has classist and maybe even racist implications. Why do we still use it?

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Why do we still use the term "white trash" to describe a poor white person? Why should we call someone "trash" just because they are poor? Why aren't middle class and upper class whites who have unfavorable personality traits considered "white trash" as well? I feel this is not fair as a poor white person can be a person with good morals and decency and still be labeled "white trash" meanwhile an upper class white person who is backstabbing, promiscuous, rude, and just shows no class might not be considered "white trash" or if anything people might say they act like "white trash" but since they aren't poor they are still not considered "white trash" at least by some. In an age of growing tolerance I still don't see why poor whites are considered "trash." It might even be racist since there is no widespread usage of the terms "Hispanic trash" or "black trash", it almost seems like Hispanics and blacks are expected to already be trash. Any thoughts or opinions?

No need for analysis paralysis.

When the shoe fits, etc...

Of course, the more PC term w/o racial connotation would be "trailer trash."

Me?

I've lived in a trailer park twice.

So far.

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Old 03-06-2016, 02:20 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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In my experience White Trash is used the most by formerly poor Whites who have achieved middle or high class status. I have never heard it used by a WASP type or minority. It's commonly used in my family by those of us who are ashamed of our poor and uneducated ancestors.
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