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Old 04-01-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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we don't give a damn about the left's social programs. asians have the highest median household income among all ethnic groups, including whites. It is also my observation that many asians are quite racist toward blacks, in ways that are more explicit because some come from countries where this is commonly accepted and some have never experienced the american civil rights movement. Many came here simply for a better life and opportunities for themselves and their children.

Take a look at Hawaii, a state with a large asian population. the native hawaiians have been marginalized first by white settlers, and then by several waves of asian immigrants. asians make great contributions to hawaii but meanwhile native hawaiians are marginalized. there, you have a case of asians and native hawaiians, but the same holds true for blacks.

in fact, in the south, many businesses are now owned by first-generation or immigrant families from india. i believe they even had a governor of a state who was a first generation indian american. this is a region with a large black population. notably the blacks have been there for generations, while the indians from india haven't. yet, the have acquired leadership positions. they are business owners of gas stations and hotels, in towns where many blacks end up working for them for little pay. These asian immigrants have bettered their family but not their fellow black citizens.

Simply put, native blacks were enslaved first and then put on life support by liberals who need the votes and power and couldn't care less about the betterment of blacks. And the truth is that most people, most of the time, care about their own interests.

Latinos are wiser and more strategic. Look. They maintain a higher birth rate, which means the future goes to them. They use business services within their own communities to rise together. They actively advocate for latino-friendly immigration policies, even for the undocumented. They are not afraid of making themselves heard in front of the president and the media. Oh, and they run their own media, which has become more influential.

The ironic point is that for many white liberals here crusading pro-immigration, have they learned Spanish yet? Or are they just cheerleaders for somebody's else interest?
Costaexpress, you have NO idea what it is like being Black in this country. Of course no one cares about black people cuz the hell we go thru...YOU DON'T...so I guess if it dont apply you let it fly...right??? BUT that sho nuff dont stop y'all from coming into OUR communities and setting businesses that neither benefit the community or re-invest in it. Of course asians and latinos do better than black people because traditionally the powers that be never, ever put policies in place to stop them from prospering the way they did black people. Institutionalized racism, building more jails than colleges lets not mention the hideous education and judicial system all set up for Black people, Black Men especially to fail. Black crime exist mostly cuz there are NO opportunities for Black people and when we did succeed ON OUR OWN...without the gov't or white mans help...the white man got jealous and scared...they burned down OUR BLACK WALL STREET in 1921. Every time we try to get a leg up...they come and tear...no BURN down what we built. Why dont you do some fact finding and KNOW what ur talking abut b4 speaking, smh
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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we don't give a damn about the left's social programs. asians have the highest median household income among all ethnic groups, including whites. It is also my observation that many asians are quite racist toward blacks, in ways that are more explicit because some come from countries where this is commonly accepted and some have never experienced the american civil rights movement. Many came here simply for a better life and opportunities for themselves and their children.

Take a look at Hawaii, a state with a large asian population. the native hawaiians have been marginalized first by white settlers, and then by several waves of asian immigrants. asians make great contributions to hawaii but meanwhile native hawaiians are marginalized. there, you have a case of asians and native hawaiians, but the same holds true for blacks.

in fact, in the south, many businesses are now owned by first-generation or immigrant families from india. i believe they even had a governor of a state who was a first generation indian american. this is a region with a large black population. notably the blacks have been there for generations, while the indians from india haven't. yet, the have acquired leadership positions. they are business owners of gas stations and hotels, in towns where many blacks end up working for them for little pay. These asian immigrants have bettered their family but not their fellow black citizens.

Simply put, native blacks were enslaved first and then put on life support by liberals who need the votes and power and couldn't care less about the betterment of blacks. And the truth is that most people, most of the time, care about their own interests.

Latinos are wiser and more strategic. Look. They maintain a higher birth rate, which means the future goes to them. They use business services within their own communities to rise together. They actively advocate for latino-friendly immigration policies, even for the undocumented. They are not afraid of making themselves heard in front of the president and the media. Oh, and they run their own media, which has become more influential.

The ironic point is that for many white liberals here crusading pro-immigration, have they learned Spanish yet? Or are they just cheerleaders for somebody's else interest?


Costaexpress, you have NO idea what it is like being Black in this country. Of course no one cares about black people cuz the hell we go thru...YOU DON'T...so I guess if it dont apply you let it fly...right??? BUT that sho nuff dont stop y'all from coming into OUR communities and setting businesses that neither benefit the community or re-invest in it. Of course asians and latinos do better than black people because traditionally the powers that be never, ever put policies in place to stop them from prospering the way they did black people. Institutionalized racism, building more jails than colleges lets not mention the hideous education and judicial system all set up for Black people, Black Men especially to fail. Black crime exist mostly cuz there are NO opportunities for Black people and when we did succeed ON OUR OWN...without the gov't or white mans help...the white man got jealous and scared...they burned down OUR BLACK WALL STREET in 1921. Every time we try to get a leg up...they come and tear...no BURN down what we built. Why dont you do some fact finding and KNOW what ur talking abut b4 speaking, smh


The difference between Asian Americans, Latin Americans, and Black Americans is skin tone. The reason why the government doesn't shut down Asian shops is because they don't get too big. Black WallStreet was cutting into local economies of white owned businesses. The thing is Asians mostly don't build multi-billion dollar busineses in the USA and neither do latinos. And they kind of have a home to escape to if the going gets tough. That is why they're really not a threat to the status quo. The minute they do start becoming a threat, America will shut them down too.

Black Wallstreet and black businesses are a HUGE threat to established powers. The same thing has happened many times with Native American tribes. They would rise up economically, only to have the government shut them down each and every time. Blacks and Native Americas are a big threat to the status quo.
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Old 04-01-2016, 10:43 AM
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The difference between Asian Americans, Latin Americans, and Black Americans is skin tone. The reason why the government doesn't shut down Asian shops is because they don't get too big. Black WallStreet was cutting into local economies of white owned businesses. The thing is Asians mostly don't build multi-billion dollar busineses in the USA and neither do latinos. And they kind of have a home to escape to if the going gets tough. That is why they're really not a threat to the status quo. The minute they do start becoming a threat, America will shut them down too.

Black Wallstreet and black businesses are a HUGE threat to established powers. The same thing has happened many times with Native American tribes. They would rise up economically, only to have the government shut them down each and every time. Blacks and Native Americas are a big threat to the status quo.
Asians already have the highest household income of any group in the US and the highest average educational attainment.


Asian-owned businesses in the US in 2007 had receipts of over $500 Billion. That was in 2007.


You're a bit behind the times.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:20 AM
 
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This is something I always found rather mind boggling as a centrist-minded libertarian and a black man.

A lot of liberals, white or black, tend to put tremendous pressure on Black Americans to support amnesty, open borders, and mass immigration from Latin America under the guise that we're both minorities/people of color and that their issues are our issues.

I'm not denying that there are some parallels between our communities regarding poverty and what have you but why are ONLY Black Americans pressured to support the Hispanic community but not Asian Americans who are also minorities?

Why aren't Asian Americans pressured by liberals to form a "Brown/Yellow" coalition like Black Americans are, especially since, in California, these two groups are the largest minority groups.

Also, I notice when a black person doesn't support open borders, amnesty, etc., they're considered sell-outs or "uncle toms" by these same liberals yet Asian Americans like Michelle Malkin who's spoken out against the same ordeal are not scrutinized in the same manner.

Why is this the case?

Generally speaking, Asians do not come to America needy. Therefore they are less likely to succumb to temptations from politicians to get their vote in exchange for free goodies from the taxpayers.
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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I was thinking the same thing. We have had 7 years with a President who has tried to pick up the minorities and give them a bigger seat at the table but despite his efforts they can't seem to get out of their own way.
They play the race card if something, anything doesn't go their way. They play the victim very well because victims don't have much responsibility for their own situation.

On the other side we have Asians that work hard and work smart to achieve.


Both Hillary and Bernie are all about taking down the top earners/achievers and making them pay their share to the bottom rung on the ladder of success.

It used to be part of the American Dream and it was true for many that if you work hard you will have success. Today many are saying why even try when the Gov. is giving me free stuff.

The Left likes to have people eating out of its hand.
If you consider Hillary Clinton to be a leftist, you are mistaken.

She is a moderate Democrat who was once a Republican (including her being President of the Young Republicans at her university, Wellesley). The economy is a big issue with her, the same as it was with former President Bill Clinton.

This political season is insanely crazy, mostly on the Republican side, but Bernie Sanders has garnered a great deal of support for his ultra-liberal ideas. She is doing what American politicians do to win the race in this country, so just because she appears liberal to right-wing Trumpsters does not make her a leftist or a left-wing liberal.
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Old 04-04-2016, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Asians already have the highest household income of any group in the US and the highest average educational attainment.


Asian-owned businesses in the US in 2007 had receipts of over $500 Billion. That was in 2007.


You're a bit behind the times.


No single Asian company is huge multi billion dollar business. Adding up all of the Asian takeout spots in the country doesn't mean Asians are sitting on top of enterprises like Google, Facebook, GE, etc.
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Old 04-04-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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It's hilarious because Mexico and Latin American countries like Brazil, Argentina, Columbia are extremely racist towards black people. They are basically treated like second class citizens. In fact you can easily argue somewhere like Mexico is much more racist against Black people then USA.


So the question becomes why should African Americans support immigration from these countries by people who hate them?

This is not even getting into the historical fact of immigration being terrible for black people from an economic standpoint

Throughout U.S. History, Immigration Surges Have Harmed Black Workers

Black people need to understand we have no friends or allies, there is no "minority coalition" or "people of color". Asians and Hispanics hate us just as much as whites and are quick to throw black people under the bus to get a seat at the table
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Old 04-04-2016, 02:02 PM
 
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Black people need to understand we have no friends or allies, there is no "minority coalition" or "people of color".
It mystifies me why black people ever embraced "hispanics" as minorities in the first place.

I think it's because most black people aren't from states that had significant numbers of Spanish speakers, so they are unaware of the sham in the whole "hispanic" concept. In the past, "they" were anything but minorities and were never historically allied with black causes.
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:05 PM
 
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It mystifies me why black people ever embraced "hispanics" as minorities in the first place.

I think it's because most black people aren't from states that had significant numbers of Spanish speakers, so they are unaware of the sham in the whole "hispanic" concept. In the past, "they" were anything but minorities and were never historically allied with black causes.
Doesn't mean every race should be at war with each other.

Also the black people saying support hispanics are black supremacists who think anything non white is better than white.

Also Forever 21 is owned by an Asian, and that's why one example lol. Total assets 1.4 billion.
CEO is microsoft is Asian. and this is the old generation, the new generation of Asians speak English better and have more social abilities. Twitch.tv co-founded by Asian sold for 970 million. These Asians and Indians are going to make their entire money off tech, and still you have those who go to business/med/law school. They are not going to support anything related to affirmative action and helping poorer races.

Also stop saying "black people say this or that" you make it seem like every black person is calling you out for not supporting hispanics. Do you think rich black people support that? Some blacks are against affirmative action too. You made this thead why? So everyone can write reasons why every race hates blacks? Delete this thread, it's going to turn racist just like that black vs aa thread.
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Old 04-08-2016, 07:13 AM
 
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Doesn't mean every race should be at war with each other.

Also the black people saying support hispanics are black supremacists who think anything non white is better than white.

Also Forever 21 is owned by an Asian, and that's why one example lol. Total assets 1.4 billion.
CEO is microsoft is Asian. and this is the old generation, the new generation of Asians speak English better and have more social abilities. Twitch.tv co-founded by Asian sold for 970 million. These Asians and Indians are going to make their entire money off tech, and still you have those who go to business/med/law school. They are not going to support anything related to affirmative action and helping poorer races.

Also stop saying "black people say this or that" you make it seem like every black person is calling you out for not supporting hispanics. Do you think rich black people support that? Some blacks are against affirmative action too. You made this thead why? So everyone can write reasons why every race hates blacks? Delete this thread, it's going to turn racist just like that black vs aa thread.
There are black people who own multi-billion dollar businesses as well, so you have no point about Asians. There are also black CEOs of fortune 500 companies as well. The numbers are low, as they are for Asian CEOs. The key that people overlook is that Asians do not own a significant amount of capital. Asians in upper management or executive positions is even MORE RARE than blacks or hispanics in similar positions. The thing is that Asians are over-represented in a certain income level, but not in general not the wealthiest in terms of net worth.
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