Civil War II: Amerika vs. ‘Murica (abortion, elections, elect)

[Clark Park]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

You've been listening to far too much right wing hate radio.

Get out and mingle with folks a little more.

It isn't as gloomy as the merchants of doom are telling you.

Old Gringo nailed it.

The premise of this thread is so ridiculous and so fatuous that I do not care to make any other comment.

[jetgraphics]

Originally Posted by edspace

-Both sides are ruled by “1%ers.” Amerika has celebrities and limousine liberals. ‘Murica has oil barons and Wall Street tycoons.

I disagree with the roster of combatants.

Who are really on the roster for known predators?
[] Usurers - masters of money madness
[] Collectivists - slavers and thieves, using government as their instrumentality
[] Islam - A political system of totalitarianism masquerading as a religion

These three “teams” are almost mutually exclusive.
• Islam forbids usury, and is opposed to all other religions and governments.
• Collectivists abhor religions that teach “Thou shalt not steal” and are opposed to usurers (“capitalist bankers and corporations”).
• Usurers don’t care about religion or politics as long as they can “control” the money system, and take their skim (interest)- but if the money system is obliterated, so are they.

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In the event of a collapse of the socialist / usurer alliance, we know that:
__ Federal Reserve notes ("dollar bills") are worthless IOUs, and without millions signed up under FICA, are not fungible nor legal tender
__ Since the emergency (1933), the constitution has been bypassed, so whatever rises to claim power will NOT be in support of the constitution
__ But as long as the resulting government guarantees a republican form to the states, no harm - no foul. (HUH!?)

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To grasp the notion that Americans are money mad, consider this: If poverty was caused by lack of money, what happens if everyone is credited with 22 billion billion quatloos? Wealth equality! Once no one "needs money" who will bother to work, farm, mine, sweat, labor, manufacture, transport and produce usable goods and services?
Money doesn't end poverty. It's the root cause of all poverty, allowing the predators to endlessly skim from the sheeple by enforcing the "need" for money.

Unless people wake up and become productive, civilization collapses.

Most likely scenario
● The “Takers” of socialism will field armies.
● The “Skimmers” of usury will field armies - or infiltrate all others.
● The “Democrazies” of mob rule will field armies.
● The Muslim Jihadis will field armies or just scavenge the dead.
● The opportunistic predators will poach whatever they can.

There will be chaos, bloodshed, suffering...

Wise Ant saith : avoid being a useful idiot / cannon fodder. Have a 24 month supply cached away. Hide it from Gestapo grasshoppers who will take it from you. If you can - establish or join a community and construct a fortified village.

[Linda_d]

Originally Posted by 2nd trick op

It's not just the simplistic traditionalist conservatives who are swilling too much Kool-Aid; the "rainbows and unicorns" crowd is no less detached from reality and pragmatism, and they will seek a pass they don't deserve under the guise of the collection of absolutes called Political Correctness.


see Exhibit 'A' - below:

You can't force the genie back into the bottle and turn the clock back to 1950 or 1850 or 1750. Thinking you can do so is the ultimate fantasy of angry Righties who are far more detached from reality and pragmatism than anybody on the Left.

[Clark Park]

Originally Posted by jetgraphics

Most likely scenario
● The “Takers” of socialism will field armies.
● The “Skimmers” of usury will field armies - or infiltrate all others.
● The “Democrazies” of mob rule will field armies.
● The Muslim Jihadis will field armies or just scavenge the dead.
● The opportunistic predators will poach whatever they can.

There will be chaos, bloodshed, suffering...

When will this scenario take place?

In about a year?

In the next 2 - 5 years?

In the next 5 - 10 years?

In more than 10 years but before 2046?

I want answer.

[Larry Caldwell]

It's interesting that Sanders supporters and Trump supporters have the same underlying motivation - they feel screwed over by a system that is run by the elite for the benefit of the elite. People are being ground into poverty, and it makes them angry. One bad month can sink them without a trace. If the people ever unite behind one candidate, you are going to see a political revolution like you have never seen in this country.

It came very close to a Russian Revolution action in the 1930s. I don't see that happening in the USA in the next 10 years, but things can change very fast. A currency crisis could slam people hard enough that they have no option but to take to the streets.

[HansProof]

Most people don't give two rips about abortion. Yeah you're either for or against it but the underlying, everyday feeling is ambivalence. I know a lot of right wingers and abortion to them is more whatever. Sometimes the loudest voice isn't the opinion of the masses. "Murica isn't about to go full Gettysburg anytime soon to topple pro-choice.

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Clark Park

When will this scenario take place?

In about a year?

In the next 2 - 5 years?

In the next 5 - 10 years?

In more than 10 years but before 2046?

I want answer.

I think it's impossible to predict, just as it always was before in history. Over and over and over again. Everywhere.

[jetgraphics]

Originally Posted by Clark Park

When will this scenario take place?

In about a year?

In the next 2 - 5 years?

In the next 5 - 10 years?

In more than 10 years but before 2046?

I want answer.

It's going on right now. It has been going on since 1933.
We just do not see the big picture.

[Northern Maine Land Man]

"With that said, the two party system here in the US is beginning to to look like a mirror image of all that supports it, in short, that minuscule portion of the populace that has a lot to gain from a polarized political scene."

A friend of mine said, "If you find yourself on the other side of the looking glass, smash the bloody mirror and knock the red queen on her azz."

We have an adjustment coming in our nation. I hope it is peaceful. It is our responsibility to be ready in case it is not.

[Linda_d]

Originally Posted by HansProof

Most people don't give two rips about abortion. Yeah you're either for or against it but the underlying, everyday feeling is ambivalence. I know a lot of right wingers and abortion to them is more whatever. Sometimes the loudest voice isn't the opinion of the masses. "Murica isn't about to go full Gettysburg anytime soon to topple pro-choice.

This has been the game that the Right has played for about 3 decades now: give lip service to issues that attract loud, dogmatic voters and claim they represent "the people". They don't. I live in a conservative area (I don't know the last time my county voted for a Democrat for POTUS), but I don't know a single woman who is "pro-abortion" in the sense of thinking it's the first easy answer to any unexpected pregnancy. For some, it's not an option at all, and for others, it's a last resort. Most are ambivalent and glad they haven't had to make that kind of decision. Almost all of them, however, think that abortion should remain an option for those who feel it's their best/only choice.