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I suppose you have a point if you hold fast to the idea that gender is solely determined by the genitalia that a person is born with.
It's not just that, it's simply that the number of transgendered people is so small.
I do not doubt that there are people who feel as though their birth gender does not represent how they feel. And I disagree with discriminating against them. But, as has been pointed out, their numbers are small.
This world is getting weird. Now I cannot tell the genders by names. Who would name their babies with unisexual names? This world makes me want to throw up.
And because of the value confusions, there are nothing could be discussed anymore.
How do you raise a child names Dannyna?
And for the OP's informations: 1. No, some words shall never got into the vocabulary in the first place. For me, instead of a new word shall be the exsiting words a.k.a a confused mind, queerness and etc.
2. Some people perhaps are not 'the animal lovers'; Therefore, stop inventing words to wearing down the people. - Be them of L, G, B, or T: As long as everybody is happy, and no forceful acts occurred. Normally, that mean they are married.
These are my intetpretations.
Stay pure. Keep things simple.
Simple, right?
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Reason: Simple, right?
I will start by saying I have had friends, men and women, who are gay for over 20 years. I am a straight getting close to 40yr old man. I have never had a problem with gay/lesbian/bi people. I have never understood how anyone can tell anyone who they can or can not love, nor why someone would even have a problem with it, (other than because they were told to).
I do recall this acronym was at one time LGB, and then some how Trans got grouped in.
As far as transgender; I understand the concept of gender identity, but I completely disagree with it. I respect its hard for me to understand something that I have no experience with any way. I feel its a lie to ones self, and every one else. It has nothing to do with who you love, but who you want to be seen as. I see it as an attempted manipulation of biology that one person is not above.
This is me trying to be as open-minded as I can, (although I'm sure some will disagree. Just know I wouldn't have spent this time to write this if it wasn't).
Whether or not you agree/disagree with my reasons behind it; do you have similar? To me grouping this in is now questioning its legitimacy. Now recently a couple times I have even heard of a Q.. LGBTQ.. A quick search said "Q" stood for "***** or questioning". I think its starting to get silly, and losing its acceptance.
I would especially like to hear from anyone who is LGB (and willing to share that when its none of our business), on why or why not you feel this should be included.
Because Trans people are outcasts. Also most identify as gay or lesbian before either realizing they are trans or transitioning.
Why does it matter that their numbers are so small?
Do we accommodate every individual for every public space?
The answer is no. It's not discrimination, it's just that we don't design things to meet every potential individual need.
From my perspective, I have no issues with transgendered people using the bathroom they want to use. There are stalls and the doors can be closed. It's not an issue.
Do we accommodate every individual for every public space?
The answer is no. It's not discrimination, it's just that we don't design things to meet every potential individual need.
From my perspective, I have no issues with transgendered people using the bathroom they want to use. There are stalls and the doors can be closed. It's not an issue.
I have thought about that question as well. There will always be tiny monorities for whom public accommodations are just not feasible: conjoined twins, quadriplegics, people with allergies to any artificial scents, people of extreme sizes (such as the man who is over 8 feet tall), people who have 3 arms or legs (yes they exist), etc.
People with such conditions struggle with things like clothing, furniture, size of bathroom stalls, airline seats, just to name a few.
Accommodations in every aspect of life for every situation is not possible. Plus, accommodating one group may create problems for another (like ADA laws that allow people to have service animals with them create problems for people allergic to animals). Similarly, allowing M-to-F T's into women's gym lockers & showers make some women uncomfortable. So whose rights/preferences prevail?
Similarly, allowing M-to-F T's into women's gym lockers & showers make some women uncomfortable. So whose rights/preferences prevail?
Just as an aside - why is it that we only seem to see any outcry about MTF? I posted earlier in this thread about a FTM and I haven't seen anyone really complain about that. I just think it's an interesting point.
To your (snipped) quote - there is a difference between just being "uncomfortable" and there being a real medical issue. Yes, a service animal could trigger severe allergic reactions to some people. Those people learn to deal with those issues (usually without complaining). But that's a vastly different situation (IMO) than someone just being "uncomfortable" because a MTF MIGHT come into a public restroom while they are there.
Most Trans people do identify as gay or lesbian or bisexual, so chances are if one is trans they are also LGB... However just because one is LBG doe snot mean that person is Trans
Let's see ... now why on Earth would people who identify with a gender other than the one traditional societal rules demand they identify with be grouped with those who are sexually attracted to people of a gender other than the one traditional societal rules demand they be attracted to?
Seriously? You can't figure this out?
There are two things are work here. Some people have finally come to a grudging acceptance of equality of LGB folks but they'll be damned if they're going to do so for T people, so they want to stop the progress here and now. Also, they're trying to drive a wedge between the two groups - divide and conquer (they're naive enough to think they're not inevitably going to lose this contest, too).
Really, this is nothing new. All throughout history, new civil rights movements have identified with past ones. And all throughout history, this has ticked off people who were never happy with past civil rights accomplishments but figured that ship had sailed so they resigned themselves to having to life with them - but by God they're sick and tired of losing groups to marginalize, attack, and discriminate against!
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