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I think the shift from a agricultural society to an industrial one and especially a service oriented one which we are now really ended the need to look for a spouse who was already established. When both partners are likely educated and both will be contributing to the pot you can afford to choose a spouse who you are compatible with based upon personality and common interest.
Meh. Most people marry socioeconomic equals. "Common interest" equates to being able to afford those interests. You don't see the high paid professional marrying trailer trash very often.
I remember the famous line from that old TV show "Thirty-something" used in all their promotional advertising slots. The 30-something guy says "I'm invisible to teen-age girls". Yep.
I think just about all men are genetically wired to be attracted to women who have physically matured. I don't think many are wired to be attracted to per-pubescent girls or young boys.
Meh. Most people marry socioeconomic equals. "Common interest" equates to being able to afford those interests. You don't see the high paid professional marrying trailer trash very often.
I remember the famous line from that old TV show "Thirty-something" used in all their promotional advertising slots. The 30-something guy says "I'm invisible to teen-age girls". Yep.
GOOD, that's normal. He wouldn't be invisible if he starts creeping on them, they would take out their camera and post the video for the wife and kids to see.
This reminds me of American Beauty and the dad fantasizing about his teen daughter's cheerleader friend and making a fool of himself around her.
Maybe all the old guys thinking the girls like their attention should get over themselves, I got enough of it as a teen and hated it, found it disgusting. We would laugh it off but it was not cool at all. I did tell some of them off which felt good.
Meh. Most people marry socioeconomic equals. "Common interest" equates to being able to afford those interests. You don't see the high paid professional marrying trailer trash very often.
I remember the famous line from that old TV show "Thirty-something" used in all their promotional advertising slots. The 30-something guy says "I'm invisible to teen-age girls". Yep.
I think just about all men are genetically wired to be attracted to women who have physically matured. I don't think many are wired to be attracted to per-pubescent girls or young boys.
I agree 100% people overwhelmingly marry their socioeconomic equals, but even so most marriages, at least happy ones, have spouses who generally have common likes and dislikes. This is also the effect of people getting married later in life and likely had a few relationships prior to marriage. The good thing is this has a positive affect on marriage in general, aka less divorce.
As far as attraction, I would imagine most people are attracted to those who look like they finished puberty, aka adults. Yeah sure a 18 year old man or woman who look respectively like a real life Ken and Barbie are going to attractive to anyone, BUT since humans form long term bonds with partners we'll probably gravitate toward having a long term mate with those who have a set of beliefs which are similar to your own.
seductive/manipulative teens that crave attention of older guys (20s, 30s) are shockingly successful at luring in the object of their affection. the reverse, however, is generally not common. People always want what they can't have. These girls are forbidden fruit and a one way ticket to jail in a lot of cases. It's like someone once said "it's OK to look at the menu as long as you don't order"
I knew someone who left his wife, kids, job, etc. to be with a teenager he was having an affair with. (and it didn't work out) I really wanted to understand what It took to do something like that. Why go down the ugly road of divorce when you're seemingly living the American dream. The answer was "she made me feel young again". I know another guy that left a BEAUTIFUL Portuguese wife and kids to move in with a teenager. He never told me why but one look at her pretty much vindicated any lingering suspicions that it was purely physical. She could have been Kate Upton's younger sister or something.
seductive/manipulative teens that crave attention of older guys (20s, 30s) are shockingly successful at luring in the object of their affection. the reverse, however, is generally not common. People always want what they can't have. These girls are forbidden fruit and a one way ticket to jail in a lot of cases. It's like someone once said "it's OK to look at the menu as long as you don't order"
I knew someone who left his wife, kids, job, etc. to be with a teenager he was having an affair with. (and it didn't work out) I really wanted to understand what It took to do something like that. Why go down the ugly road of divorce when you're seemingly living the American dream. The answer was "she made me feel young again". I know another guy that left a BEAUTIFUL Portuguese wife and kids to move in with a teenager. He never told me why but one look at her pretty much vindicated any lingering suspicions that it was purely physical. She could have been Kate Upton's younger sister or something.
Also the common theme in both is "Kids". Seems like life was getting a little too real with all that pesky parental responsibility and the younger carefree thing seemed like an escape. I can't imagine his children are going to think very highly of their father.
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There's a lot of misinformation out there about what a pedophile is so let me clear it up for y'all. I debate this very subject often.
A pedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to children roughly around the ages of 5-10. There is a different name for adults attracted to toddlers/infants as well as teens.
A person sexually attracted to a 14 year old is NOT a pedophile. The term is Hebephilia and specializes in young teens. Ephebophilia defines an adult attracted to the age group of 15-18.
A pedophile is not by necessity a child molester. Far from it. Pedophilia is a mental illness like any other and, frankly, those who suffer from it are mistreated without having ever done anything wrong. Let's remember, a thought is not a crime no matter how badly you want it to be. There sadly isn't any real help for the condition because of the dire stigma.
A child molester has graduated from a mental illness to a criminal act. That criminal act is rape. A person who sexually abuses a child is a rapist, pure and simple.
There have been cases where child-rapists are not even diagnosed pedophiles. Many times the act of rape is backed up by other disorders and personality traits.
America doesn't want to hear this, but most pedophiles are harmless. Further, there are many more of them than you'd think, female included.
I'm repeating this because it seemed to be ignored.
Also the common theme in both is "Kids". Seems like life was getting a little too real with all that pesky parental responsibility and the younger carefree thing seemed like an escape. I can't imagine his children are going to think very highly of their father.
in the latter's case he tried valiantly to mask his frustrations at home. he argued with his wife on the phone in his office. struggled with the stresses of raising 2 toddlers. his wife wasn't a stay at home mother but very dependent on him. I do think this was partially an "escape" of some kind. Mundane life at home with no relief. Apparently a teenage girl with a high school education and a body built for sex was the answer
There's a lot of misinformation out there about what a pedophile is so let me clear it up for y'all. I debate this very subject often.
A pedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to children roughly around the ages of 5-10. There is a different name for adults attracted to toddlers/infants as well as teens.
A person sexually attracted to a 14 year old is NOT a pedophile. The term is Hebephilia and specializes in young teens. Ephebophilia defines an adult attracted to the age group of 15-18.
A pedophile is not by necessity a child molester. Far from it. Pedophilia is a mental illness like any other and, frankly, those who suffer from it are mistreated without having ever done anything wrong. Let's remember, a thought is not a crime no matter how badly you want it to be. There sadly isn't any real help for the condition because of the dire stigma.
A child molester has graduated from a mental illness to a criminal act. That criminal act is rape. A person who sexually abuses a child is a rapist, pure and simple.
There have been cases where child-rapists are not even diagnosed pedophiles. Many times the act of rape is backed up by other disorders and personality traits.
America doesn't want to hear this, but most pedophiles are harmless. Further, there are many more of them than you'd think, female included.
I remember over the past few years about three men have turned themselves in for bei g pedophiles, none of the three ever acted on it, they turned themselves in because they were afraid of acting on it. One or two of them looked at kiddie porn, but had none saved on the computer. This is between the years of 2007-2012, nither guy actually liked the fact that they liked kids, they wanted help to keep themselves from actually acting on it. I don't remember if they ever got help, or just jail time, but I do remember that they thought they were doing the right thing, turning rhemselves, before they snatched up some boy or girl off a playground.
What do yall think about these guys, are they still scum of the earth, or would you give them at least a modicum of sympathy, because they realized they had to stop themselves, and want of a way to not be pedophiles? I admire them for trying to do the right thing, if anything.
I knew someone who left his wife, kids, job, etc. to be with a teenager he was having an affair with. (and it didn't work out) I really wanted to understand what It took to do something like that. Why go down the ugly road of divorce when you're seemingly living the American dream. The answer was "she made me feel young again". I know another guy that left a BEAUTIFUL Portuguese wife and kids to move in with a teenager. He never told me why but one look at her pretty much vindicated any lingering suspicions that it was purely physical. She could have been Kate Upton's younger sister or something.
That still doesn't explain why he left a beautiful wife for her.
edit: your subsequent post explains it; it wasn't so much about leaving one beautiful woman for a younger one. It was about getting out of a life that wasn't fulfilling to him, or that he felt was dragging him down, somehow.
I find females with developed secondary sexual characteristics attractive. But that's it. One walks by and I'm reminded that I'm part of nature.
The mere idea of conversing with a 15-year-old girl would probably make my brain fall out of my skull though.
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