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Old 07-02-2016, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mcwali2009 View Post
I say yes,look at the court systems and the homeless shelters(favor woman) so really men have it harder.
Much easier to be a woman. They really aren't expected to work and people are more willing to help them. A good example, would be having your car break down on the side of the road. People are more willing to stop for a woman. Throughout human history, men have always been willing to take in a wife and care for her--we hardly ever hear of women working and supporting 1, 2, 3+ men. Society in general, is just softer toward women.

Old 07-03-2016, 06:15 AM
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Men are scared women will laugh at them, women are scared men will kill them.

OP, If you feel that you got the raw end of the del when you and your now wife sat down and discussed all this before you got married and you decided not to be the primary parent, then sit down with her and rengotiate. If one parent doesn't work, that is a decision between those two people.

Of course, one might look at the vast majority of families where both work, and yet the man gets to act like an incompetent bozo by not doing any of the work involved in keeping the kids fed, clothed, shod, vaccinated, hair cut, dentisted, and socialised. Tell me this: you both work, but who will be buying the halloween costumes? Who sent in cookies last treat day at school?

Originally Posted by mcwali2009 View Post
I say yes,look at the court systems and the homeless shelters(favor woman) so really men have it harder
America has decided that the only reason to give welfare is to keep children from starving, so only a custodial parent gets welfare. If men were largely the sole custodial parent then it would largely be women on the streets.
Old 07-03-2016, 06:48 AM
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by mcwali2009 View Post
I say yes,look at the court systems and the homeless shelters(favor woman) so really men have it harder.
Originally Posted by Nicci6Squirrels View Post
Define "easier."
It's a moot point because if you're a man you don't know what it's like to be a woman and vice versa.
How about this... life is hard... man, woman, or other.
Exactly. This question is so complex it would take a lifetime to answer. But in true CD form, OP has reduced his/her conclusions to one pat sentence

I agree with Nicci: life is hard no matter what sex one is. I believe it's harder to be a mother than a father because the bulk of the parenting role falls on the mother, and in cases of divorce, mothers usually get custody. And because they earn less money than men, they are financially worse off. Women are judged more for their appearance than men. Women are more likely to be the victims of crime, particularly sexual assault.

Men are more likely to be judged by their professions and earning capabilities. Men are also judged by what they can do around the home, such as repairs and things. Men are also judged harshly if they don't fill traditionally male roles and if they display any traits of femininity or weakness. These are just generalizations, mind you; they do not apply to all men or all women.
Old 07-03-2016, 07:07 AM
Location: Southern Colorado
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I'd say it is probably roughly equal. Being a woman is harder for a dozen reasons, being a man is harder for a dozen reasons.
Old 07-03-2016, 07:32 AM
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I would say being a man is easier than being a woman.
-has fewer clothing options (so economically, you can save a buck or two)
-has higher earning power (because there is a good old boys club, but no good old female clubs)
-does not have biological timeline like women and they are not judged as harshly for being a bachelor
(women are called spinsters, cat people, or maids)
-have more leadership positions ('cause women in power are judged for everything- HILARY- see how they refer to her by her first name and not last)
-does not have to worry about sexual predators as much as women
-are considered superior to women in many countries
-have an express line to use the bathroom (have you seen the lines for women's restrooms?!)
-are not judged as harshly as caretakers - (absent father vs. absent mother)
Old 07-03-2016, 07:37 AM
Location: Central IL
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Originally Posted by mcwali2009 View Post
I say yes,look at the court systems and the homeless shelters(favor woman) so really men have it harder.
Yes, look at the college sports stars who literally get off and then get off pretty much with a slap on the wrist after attacking women. Or isn't THAT news on misogynistic websites you frequent?
Old 07-03-2016, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by reneeh63 View Post
Yes, look at the college sports stars who literally get off and then get off pretty much with a slap on the wrist after attacking women. Or isn't THAT news on misogynistic websites you frequent?
Like the Duke lacrosse team?
Old 07-03-2016, 08:25 AM
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I think it's tougher to be a woman. There seems to be an awful lot more envious posts by men putting women down than vice versa.
Old 07-03-2016, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mcwali2009 View Post
Actually my cousin(male)was a rape victim in prison,and everyone told him to toughen it up now if it was a woman would anyone tell her to toughen up?or would we all feel sorry for her?And i didnt even bring the topic of rape,another poster did i was simply responding.
Yes I know from the other thread that you mentioned it in more than a few times however, YOU are not a victim of rape, YOU have no idea what it is like and YOU are the one obsessed with rape. Seek therapy.
By the way *men* are not the only ones raped in prison, it happens to *women* in prison daily.
Old 07-03-2016, 11:06 AM
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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Originally Posted by mcwali2009 View Post
Prison rape for some reason is encouraged by society and yes the numbers do exceeds the number of women being raped its just many go unreported in prison even if it did happen who is gonna believe the prisoners?
Vacuous claims, absent any supporting data.

I also got a REPUTATION message claiming - again, without a shred of data - that 3x as many men are raped than women in the United States.

So let's look at some actual data, shall we?

This comprehensive study concludes that 4.0% of those incarcerated in state and federal prisons, and 3.2% of those in jails, experienced sexual assault in the previous year. Also, incarcerated females are more than 3.5 times as likely to experience sexual assault while incarcerated.

Approximately 9% of the U.S. prison population is female.
Incarceration rates by gender | Prison Policy Initiative

So, doing a little basic math results in the following numbers:
~17,500 incarcerated females sexually assaulted per year
~49,100 incarcerated males sexually assaulted per year

These numbers obscure the aforementioned fact that any given individual incarcerated woman is much likely to be raped than any given incarcerated man. But then, women commit a lot fewer crimes and this get incarcerated a lot less often. I'll bet the same bunch who routinely blame women for being raped (for what they wear, where the are, etc.) aren't blaming men for being incarcerated - which is a place that makes one vulnerable to rape.

Now, only of the small percentage of the population - less than 1% - which is incarcerated. There are about 320 million people not in prisons in the United States. Women are raped at a rate 11x that of men. And that's among that population of the country, which is over 100% the size of the imprisoned population. I'll assume that the readers of this post are capable of the minimal bit of mathematics and common sense required to understand the implications of this.

But that's probably not a safe assumption, so let's do the math together. Current data indicates a per annum rape rate of 0.4/1000. That equates to 128,000 rapes per year in the United States (this is a survey of households, and so excludes the prison population). Given known rates of rape per gender, that equates to approximately 116,500 women raped and approximately 11,500 men raped per year.
National Crime Victimization Survey Resource Guide

Now, add the numbers of rapes in prisons/jails and rapes outside of penal institutions and you get roughly the following:
134,000 women raped per year
61,000 men raped per year

Of course, one flailing about for something to hold onto can point out that rapes are under-reported. Indeed, they almost surely are. Rapes of men are under-reported in and out of penal institutions and rapes of women are under-reported in and out of penal institutions (but invariably, those peddling the men-are-so-victimized! sob stories are only concerned about the under-reporting of males raped). But there's no reason to think that prison rapes are less reported than rapes outside of prisons.

That's the data. Feel free to counter it - you know, with actual evidence, not just empty claims to the contrary.

In the end, this thread is just a thinly-veiled "We men are so oppressed!" whine in reaction to the erosion of institutionalized male privilege.
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