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Old 09-15-2016, 06:20 AM
 
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The Clintons are not evil nor stupid, but rather evasive to a point of making for a disturbed society . They and their protective minions create a carnival of mistrust dating back decades. They circumvent rules, laws , ethics, and proliferate an extreme leftist ideology founded on political
correctness and whatever fits their weird agenda.
right on....except I disagree with the part about them being evil.

 
Old 09-15-2016, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So what we seem to have here is a campaign more dominated by grass-roots populism than any in recent history; the Democrats have always had a populist component, which they have been successful in merging into a coalition. But some groups within that coalition have become disenchanted by some aspects of the "progressive" agenda and moved toward Trump's camp -- leaving many independents, plus the two "ideological" parties, effectively on the sidelines.

(emphasis added)

Unless Trump pulls stronger-than-expected support among the disaffected and excluded groups cited above, or fate "blows the whistle" on Clinton.
There it is...

That desperate right wing hope for Hillary's health to collapse.

So christian. So fearful. So revealing of an empty, bleak outlook on America's future.

Enjoy this entertaining campaign. The angry "evangelical right" has tightly embraced a womanizing adulterer with the morals of an alley cat and courage of a chickenhawk in their failing quest to remain a dominant and relevant aspect of America's culture.

I report. You decide.

 
Old 09-15-2016, 07:13 AM
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Witch hunts are waged by people who have nothing else to run on. They're effective on uninformed, uneducated people (Trump's supporters).
That's deplorable.
 
Old 09-15-2016, 07:20 AM
eok
 
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Hillary Clinton has no significant or abnormal health problems. She has what everyone has: colds, pneumonia, allergies, etc. No big deal. That's excellent for someone who is 68.
George Washington was healthy and vigorous. But he got pneumonia at age 67 and died.
 
Old 09-15-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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My first thought when I saw her go down was Bernie. Someone we can vote FOR as opposed to holding our noses and voting for Hillary in order to avoid having a psycho in the White House.
 
Old 09-15-2016, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Alexander Archipelago
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George Washington was healthy and vigorous. But he got pneumonia at age 67 and died.
Right, in the days prior to indoor heating and semi competent doctors.

If Hillary were to be bled with leeches as Father George was, perhaps she would also die.

The chances of her expiring prior to the election are probably similar to that of earth being struck by an asteroid in this time frame.
 
Old 09-15-2016, 09:13 AM
 
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Tim Kaine would become POTUS.

If something happens to him then the Speaker of the House or Senate Majority leader would become POTUS.
 
Old 09-15-2016, 10:04 AM
 
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I can tell you this much. I doubt many of us who are years or even decades younger could deal with the schedule and demands of both a campaign and/or sec. of state.
I always wonder how these folks fly all around the world constantly and have to be "on" much of the time with only short periods of rest.

My MIL is 95 and still jumping on planes, trains and even driving. So don't hold your breath about Hill. As others have said, Trump is more likely to drop and/or develop mental impairment (I suspect he has touches of it, but we don't get to have them examined by mental health specialists).
 
Old 09-15-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Live in NY State, work in CT
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Good point. But the nation has never faced a situation in which a Presidential candidate died, or their activities "came under a cloud" in the last few weeks before Election Day. And the closest parallels (1876 and 2000) don't represent a very orderly process. Perhaps the best example can be found in the re-establishment of functional state governments in the South during Reconstruction -- and the scenario isn't pretty.
The closest we have come is Horace Greeley in 1872. He died 3 weeks after the election but before the Electoral College met. However, he lost the election so his 66 electoral votes were split among the other candidates (a lot more 3rd party candidates then).

2nd closest (and closest in modern times) I presume would be RFK in June of 1968.

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It would probably be a good thing for the republicans. There are a lot of people out there who will never vote for Hillary but are quite disgusted with Trump. I imagine if Kasich, Rubio, or even Cruz had won the nomination, they'd be leading Clinton right now.
Kasich yes (would probably pull off the more conservative Hillary supporters and would definitely pull those only voting for Hill because she's not Trump), Rubio maybe (same as Kasich except being a little more to the right some moderates who would vote for Kasich wouldn't vote for him), Cruz definitely not (many consider him to be almost as nuts as Trump).
 
Old 09-15-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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It would probably be a good thing for the republicans. There are a lot of people out there who will never vote for Hillary but are quite disgusted with Trump. I imagine if Kasich, Rubio, or even Cruz had won the nomination, they'd be leading Clinton right now.


Good for the republican establishment, you mean. We'd be right back at square one with GOP globalists fighting it out with DNC globalists over transgendered bathrooms and abortion, and the American people left with no real choices to make.
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