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He's one lone name from a very long list. Tens of thousands of Americans lost their jobs to McCarthyism. Thousands of longshoremen were let go on the basis of unspecified allegations made by unidentified "informants." They were joined on the unemployment lines by teachers. lawyers, labor leaders, and on and on. Famous people who were blacklisted included Charlie Chaplin, Aaron Copland, W.E.B. Dubois, Dashiell Hammett, Linus Pauling, Lillian Hellman, Langston Hughes, Sam Jaffe, Paul Robeson, Gypsy Rose Lee, Burgess Meredith, Edward G. Robinson, Arthur Miller, Artie Shaw, Zero Mostel, Orson Welles, Robert Oppenheimer, Pete Seeger, and many, many more.
I'm not a massive fan of tribal life but I like how everyone had a strong sense of support and community,you had a whole village of people you could turn too for support,people are very depressed and very isolated nowadays.There was no such thing as homelessness,and I like that their lives were full of ritual and meaning and not just pursuit of commercial achievements.
Most of what people want from the past is just a fantasy that is only true in movies
Sure, there were some nice things back 50 years ago
There also was more violence against minorities
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Right, now we have far more violence against whites. Almost total disrespect for the police to include ambush and murdering them. Most people in debt up to their eyeballs and will remain there until they pass on. Decent jobs with good benefits almost extinct. Fatherless children in 1960 amounted to about 8% and in 2010 25%. Fatherless black children in the same period went from 20% to 50%. Incarceration rate in 1960 were about 100/100,000 and in 2012 were 470/100,000. The list can go on and on....
I don't see the fantasy. Just the facts.
Don't confuse a liberal with facts. It just gets in their way.
I'd go with the 1920s US.
Cars were getting to be mainstream, but there weren't too many causing traffic.
Horses were on the way out, so the entire town didn't smell like manure.
Electricity was available, so the entire town wasn't pitch black at sunset, but not so ubiquitous that everybody stared at computer screens in their houses all day.
Architecture looked awesome.
Local owned mom and pop shops were the only businesses in town.
Everything in town was within walking distance.
Economy was good.
No wars.
You could fly in an airplane or a 1000 foot airship and the airplanes actually looked cool.
Even gangster's dressed nice.
Prohibition was in effect which meant buying booze was more of an adventure.
I can't really think of anything bad in the 1920s.
He's one lone name from a very long list. Tens of thousands of Americans lost their jobs to McCarthyism. Thousands of longshoremen were let go on the basis of unspecified allegations made by unidentified "informants." They were joined on the unemployment lines by teachers. lawyers, labor leaders, and on and on. Famous people who were blacklisted included Charlie Chaplin, Aaron Copland, W.E.B. Dubois, Dashiell Hammett, Linus Pauling, Lillian Hellman, Langston Hughes, Sam Jaffe, Paul Robeson, Gypsy Rose Lee, Burgess Meredith, Edward G. Robinson, Arthur Miller, Artie Shaw, Zero Mostel, Orson Welles, Robert Oppenheimer, Pete Seeger, and many, many more.
Sort of like what happens to anyone in Hollywood today who identifies as Republican/Conservative.
I'd go with the 1920s US.
Cars were getting to be mainstream, but there weren't too many causing traffic.
Horses were on the way out, so the entire town didn't smell like manure.
Electricity was available, so the entire town wasn't pitch black at sunset, but not so ubiquitous that everybody stared at computer screens in their houses all day.
Architecture looked awesome.
Local owned mom and pop shops were the only businesses in town.
Everything in town was within walking distance.
Economy was good.
No wars.
You could fly in an airplane or a 1000 foot airship and the airplanes actually looked cool.
Even gangster's dressed nice.
Prohibition was in effect which meant buying booze was more of an adventure.
I can't really think of anything bad in the 1920s.
cant think of anything bad in the 20's??
segregation was alive and well,,,,, could women vote??
did women go to college or was expected to be breeders and housewives?
was their indoor plumbing??? in all houses??? or did half the population still use an outhouse,,,,think of that when its zero degrees out in the winter....
not to mention people took a bath 3-4 times a year...
that's why weddings were in june,,,,so they'd be flowers,,,,,, so you couldn't smell the guests that stunk..
for the places that had indoor plumbing,,,how bout the raw sewage going into a nearby river or lake,,,,,that happened up until the '70's
how bout smoking??? in the 60's and 70's seems like everyone smoked,,even at the workplace and around kids and babies,,suppose that happened in the 20's??
how bout the child labor and sweatshops......no unions or osha laws?????????
how bout the industrial revolution of factories and smokestacks and chemical wastes going right into nearby lakes rivers and streams??
how bout warmth in a house in the colder regions??? every room had a fireplace,,,and it was very cold and drafty houses,,,,fireplaces are not efficient!... that's why they used bedwarmers.....look at the washing boards or machines......???
many folks had their own garden and cattle.... they smelled like manure going to school known as a "farm" smell...
did you have a regrigerator??? nope the icebox,,,, whole different ball game
and people weren't squeamish,,,if you wanted to eat,,,,you learned how to hunt or at least pluck and clean a chicken for sunday dinner..
and diseases??? that's why the median age in the early 1900's was 40-50 .
we have it easier and better than anytime in human history
most of us have never been hungry ,,,truly hungry ...not eaten for days
we are soooo spoiled now we cant even recognize it,,
look at the modern supermarket,,,,, its a marvel of foods all over the world,,,,and sweets and treats,,
you take someone from earlier centuries and bring them to a supermarket..
not to mention a Walmart,,,
they would be stunned..
yeah we have it soooooooooooooooooooooo much better than years ago..
look at the old photos guys and gals in their 40's-50's look old like in their 70's today
you agree with what...I dare you post police murder rates as compared to the decade of the 70's. POLICE have it MUCH EASIER as CRIME has DROPPED in huge numbers just like Police killings has dropped dramatically.
Right, now we have far more violence against whites. Almost total disrespect for the police to include ambush and murdering them. Most people in debt up to their eyeballs and will remain there until they pass on. Decent jobs with good benefits almost extinct. Fatherless children in 1960 amounted to about 8% and in 2010 25%. Fatherless black children in the same period went from 20% to 50%. Incarceration rate in 1960 were about 100/100,000 and in 2012 were 470/100,000. The list can go on and on....
I don't see the fantasy. Just the facts.
Post stats on Cop Killings in this decade compared to the several beforehand Your post has ZERO to do with facts. What violence against whites? who is carrying this out? Last time I checked Dylan Roof was white and slaughtered 9 blacks as they prayed in a church....not the other way around
segregation was alive and well,,,,, could women vote??
did women go to college or was expected to be breeders and housewives?
was their indoor plumbing??? in all houses??? or did half the population still use an outhouse,,,,think of that when its zero degrees out in the winter....
not to mention people took a bath 3-4 times a year...
that's why weddings were in june,,,,so they'd be flowers,,,,,, so you couldn't smell the guests that stunk..
for the places that had indoor plumbing,,,how bout the raw sewage going into a nearby river or lake,,,,,that happened up until the '70's
how bout smoking??? in the 60's and 70's seems like everyone smoked,,even at the workplace and around kids and babies,,suppose that happened in the 20's??
how bout the child labor and sweatshops......no unions or osha laws?????????
how bout the industrial revolution of factories and smokestacks and chemical wastes going right into nearby lakes rivers and streams??
how bout warmth in a house in the colder regions??? every room had a fireplace,,,and it was very cold and drafty houses,,,,fireplaces are not efficient!... that's why they used bedwarmers.....look at the washing boards or machines......???
many folks had their own garden and cattle.... they smelled like manure going to school known as a "farm" smell...
did you have a regrigerator??? nope the icebox,,,, whole different ball game
and people weren't squeamish,,,if you wanted to eat,,,,you learned how to hunt or at least pluck and clean a chicken for sunday dinner..
and diseases??? that's why the median age in the early 1900's was 40-50 .
we have it easier and better than anytime in human history
most of us have never been hungry ,,,truly hungry ...not eaten for days
we are soooo spoiled now we cant even recognize it,,
look at the modern supermarket,,,,, its a marvel of foods all over the world,,,,and sweets and treats,,
you take someone from earlier centuries and bring them to a supermarket..
not to mention a Walmart,,,
they would be stunned..
yeah we have it soooooooooooooooooooooo much better than years ago..
look at the old photos guys and gals in their 40's-50's look old like in their 70's today
Women have been able to vote in the US since 1920.
Women weren't expected to go to college, but it was entirely possible for a family to live a middle class lifestyle on a single family income, so they didn't have to.
Segregation was alive and well in the South, but one could argue its alive and well now, it's simply self inflicted segregation (demographic makeup of inner city schools aren't exactly diverse)...besides, since we're talking time travel, feel free to be whatever gender, race, income you want.
Indoor plumbing and toilets were pretty common place by 1920, with the exception of rural areas, so I'd pick a nice medium sized town.
Raw sewage ended up in the river, but there was only 1/10 of the population we have now, so it wasn't as big of an issue. I wouldn't have picked Cleveland anyway. As a plus, global warming wasn't really a thing, so you could sleep well knowing there was still glaciers in some place you'd never get to visit.
People smoked, but it was still cool to use a pipe or a cigar, which wouldn't bother you if everybody was doing and completely oblivious to its effects.
There were unions in the 1920s, but they were in decline due to the thriving economy.
Fireplaces weren't the main source of warmth by 1920, by then it was radiators and furnaces. Houses were drafty, but as a plus, they also breathed better, when in turn allowed for better indoor air quality.
Veggies were fresher and more local, meats didn't have hormones, and milk was delivered daily like the mail. I'm fine with the icebox.
Life expectancy wasn't all that great, but not bad considering WWI and the Spanish Flu epidemics were just in full swing, so that brought the average down a bit. On the plus side, issues like peanut allergies, celiac disease, diabetes, obesity and asthma were much less common than they are today.
It is easier today, but not necessarily better in all aspects.
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