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Old 01-19-2017, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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education in schools should be unbiased and based on truth. Education at home should be founded on truth, but emotion is allowed to influence the style and main message of education, it's your own offspring for crying out loud. Never mind what's legal, it's immoral, disrespectful, and unethical to attempt to have a say in how (responsible) parents raise their children.
I agree. School is one thing, and home is another.
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Old 01-19-2017, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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So essentially you are of no help and really have no solutions and you continue to push this concentration camp. And know it is not a cost effective solution.
That's also what I glean from those posts. Completely archaic and unrealistic.
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Old 01-19-2017, 07:27 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Kids learn to take drugs in school, not learn to not take drugs. Their peers have far more influence than their teachers. Particularly when they reach that "reject authority" stage.
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Old 01-19-2017, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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The more the government tries to regulate individuals moral compass the more "criminal enterprises" will cater and profit from it. Its impossible to make people do what you or the government wants with their own bodies. Especially when they say this drug is okay and that one isnt. How can we impress upon our youth that they should not do drugs when we say that its ok to do the ones we chose though?

If they were all legal at a certain age like alcohol and cigarettes - then that would end the black market for them. Also would be able to regulate the amount to a point and they would be able to see the reality of what happens because it would be right out there instead of cloaked. You can kill youself with water if you abuse it and drink to much and we dont see that happening or overdose from over the counter meds as well.

What about the children that are taking adderall daily and other prescribed drugs out there that are highly addictive are they at risk for then acting like a tweaker as adults, losing their minds and committing acts of violence?

Why is it ok for alcohol , pot and thousands of prescribed drugs that are one molecule away from the ones we outlaw to be consumed but others carry this stigma and ruin lives? Being put in jail and marked with a felony so they can not work and or rent a place to live after has to weigh on society as a whole more than legalization.

Education is the best way - and legalization. The paranoia has to stop or everyone has to stop ALL drugs for our youth to not do what they see us doing.
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Old 01-19-2017, 09:46 PM
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So essentially you are of no help and really have no solutions and you continue to push this concentration camp. And know it is not a cost effective solution.
It actually would be the most cost-effective way to win the war on drugs. The problem with it is that people would have to want to establish such a concentration camp. And they don't want to, because they don't want to win the war on drugs. They want to make drugs legal. If they lose the war on drugs, that makes it easier to make drugs legal. So many people do drugs, we can't even have this kind of argument. Some of the people doing the arguing usually turn out to be involved in drugs, and aren't interested in any solutions that increase their odds of getting prosecuted.
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Old 01-19-2017, 09:51 PM
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Laws shouldn't encourage crime either.

Banning murder/theft etc doesn't lead to an increase in crime, while banning drugs does. That's because the matter of human rights is involved.
So don't ban drugs. But meanwhile, as long as they remain banned, we need to crack down hard on everyone who buys or sells illegal drugs. Such people are much worse criminals than they seem. Drug addiction itself is not a crime. The serious crime is being involved with organized crime, by giving them drug money.
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Old 01-19-2017, 09:55 PM
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That's also what I glean from those posts. Completely archaic and unrealistic.
The only thing that really makes the concentration camp unrealistic is that people don't want it. And the reason why they don't want it is that they don't want to win the war on drugs. If they lose the war, they can justify making drugs legal. So losing the war is one step towards their goal. They're among the most depraved traitors the world has ever known. Such depravity is often caused by drugs.
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Old 01-19-2017, 09:59 PM
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Kids learn to take drugs in school, not learn to not take drugs. Their peers have far more influence than their teachers. Particularly when they reach that "reject authority" stage.
The best solution would be to keep drugs out of schools. But that would take some competence, and a desire to win the war on drugs. Too many people want to lose that war as fast as possible. Just look at how many teachers and parents do drugs.
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Old 01-19-2017, 10:08 PM
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As long as is there no decriminalization of drugs, then alcohol should be illegal as well. The hypocrisy surrounding it is astounding-if there is one drug that has the potential to kill a first time user, or make a first time user violent, it's alcohol.
You're welcome to work towards making alcohol illegal. Good luck with that. But, in the meantime, don't use alcohol as an excuse to support organized crime by letting people buy illegal drugs.
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Old 01-19-2017, 10:17 PM
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Addicts to drugs like meth and heroin are actually victims.
All criminals are victims. But once we start seeing them as victims, and start treating them like victims, crime skyrockets. Drug users help organized crime. That alone is a good enough reason to keep them locked up forever. Yes, they're victims, but they would be better victims locked up.
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