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Old 05-19-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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The things that make men inherently violent also make them better suited to do the dangerous and difficult jobs and fight the wars.

Evolution is what it is.
Men are more predisposed and better equipped for acts of violence and as you say, certain tasks require that. Whether it be war, protecting the family etc. Kinda funny how certain types of women will make such an issue of the violence lurking I side men is so horrible, but if they were being attacked by another violent male and a man takes no action to do violence on the attacker then that man, would be a wimp. Lol, sometimes violence is required.

When it is required, that duty always falls to men. It really is a vicious cycle. A true damned if ya do damned if ya dont.
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Old 05-20-2017, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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Men are more predisposed and better equipped for acts of violence and as you say, certain tasks require that. Whether it be war, protecting the family etc. Kinda funny how certain types of women will make such an issue of the violence lurking I side men is so horrible, but if they were being attacked by another violent male and a man takes no action to do violence on the attacker then that man, would be a wimp. Lol, sometimes violence is required.

When it is required, that duty always falls to men. It really is a vicious cycle. A true damned if ya do damned if ya dont.
Always enjoy your posts, NV.

But I'm curious: who are those types of women who "make such an issue of violence lurking inside men"? It upsets me to see so much violence in society. And, it just so happens that men commit the vast majority of violent acts around the world. So, I guess I'm one of those types of women.

*shrug*
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Old 05-20-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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There’s no way of rationally denying the fact that men are more likely to engage in violent behavior. However, it would be lazy to make that proclamation without expounding on the issue. So, a few thoughts on the matter:

Physical aggression is strongly correlated with testosterone levels. This is true not only in human beings, but in most primates. Human males with low levels of testosterone are less likely to exhibit aggressive behavior. Human females with high levels of testosterone are more likely to engage in such behavior. Again, this tendency holds for most other primate species. This doesn’t obviate the fact that men are more aggressive, but it does narrow the focus.

The hormonal, psychological, and cultural factors that cause men to be more likely to engage in violence also cause men to be more likely to engage in acts of physical heroism and technological advancement. Those levels of aggression may cause one man to attempt to rape a woman, and another man to intervene and prevent the rape. One man might shoot a random victim in the head, while another man might devise a medical procedure that saves the life of someone who is shot in the head. One man might start a fire in an occupied building, while another man will enter the inferno to save a life. The point is that it would be both unfair, and intellectually dishonest, to blame males for a greater demographic propensity for negative behaviors, without giving males credit for their greater propensity for behaviors which have a significant, positive social impact.

Engaging in violence is largely dependent upon the ability to use that violence as an effective means of domination. Few people are foolish enough to attempt violence against someone who they perceive to be capable of successfully defending themselves. A woman who is in a relationship with a man who is physically smaller and weaker than she is-- assuming the absence of weapons, is far more likely to perpetrate physical violence against him than he is against her. Men are more likely to commit acts of abuse against children, however, the younger (and generally smaller) the child, the higher the proportion of female abusers. In short, people commit acts of violence because they can physically dominate the victim.

Culturally and legally, women who engage in violent behavior are far less likely to be held accountable, or held to the same level of accountability, as are men. When a man commits an act of violence, we accept that violence on its face: he is evil, a monster, a murderer, a pervert. When a woman commits an act of violence, we go out of our way to look for mitigating factors: premenstrual syndrome, postpartum syndrome, burning-bed syndrome, PTSD, personal history as a victim of sexual abuse, etc. When all other factors are equal, a woman is far less likely to be tried, convicted, or incarcerated than is a man. If she is convicted, her sentence will likely be considerably less-severe than is typical for a man...consider Lorena Bobbitt, Susan Smith, Karla Homolka, et.al.

Yes, men are more likely than women to be violent, and barring millions of years of biological and cultural evolution, will probably remain so. However, men are also likely to continue to be more likely to risk their lives for noble causes, and to create new structures and technologies that advance civilization.
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Old 05-21-2017, 06:46 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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There’s no way of rationally denying the fact that men are more likely to engage in violent behavior.
It is even more important to keep in mind that the vast, vast, vast majority of men do not commit acts of criminal violence at any point in their lives. They are just normal people living regular lives.

There is no way of rationally denying this fact.
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Old 05-21-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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No problemo. Simply turn an AI loose in the Department of Pre-Crime.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/18/...cial-features/
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Old 05-21-2017, 08:46 AM
 
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It is even more important to keep in mind that the vast, vast, vast majority of men do not commit acts of criminal violence at any point in their lives. They are just normal people living regular lives.

There is no way of rationally denying this fact.
Most men do no commit violence. Most of the violence comes from men.
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Old 05-21-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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I'm sick & tired of men getting demonized. There are women who kill & murder others as well - it's not just men that do this. Look at the murderess Jodi Arias, who killed her boyfriend because he tried to break up with her. Or the various women out there who kill their boyfriends, husbands, and kids - and, no, I'm NOT talking about women who kill men in self-defense:

33 Women Who 'Snapped' and Committed Murder | Very Real

9 Notorious Female Serial Killers | The Lineup

And, watch the horrific film An American Crime (2007), which depicted the true life 1965 murder of Sylvia Likens, which was primarily committed by a woman:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sylvia_Likens

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Culturally and legally, women who engage in violent behavior are far less likely to be held accountable, or held to the same level of accountability, as are men. When a man commits an act of violence, we accept that violence on its face: he is evil, a monster, a murderer, a pervert. When a woman commits an act of violence, we go out of our way to look for mitigating factors: premenstrual syndrome, postpartum syndrome, burning-bed syndrome, PTSD, personal history as a victim of sexual abuse, etc. When all other factors are equal, a woman is far less likely to be tried, convicted, or incarcerated than is a man. If she is convicted, her sentence will likely be considerably less-severe than is typical for a man...consider Lorena Bobbitt, Susan Smith, Karla Homolka, et.al.
Yes, and this definitely is not fair at all. The problem is that women get a slap on the wrist when they commit the same crimes that men do. This is one of the many very unfair elements of the criminal justice system. Women should be punished just as men are - WHEN THEY COMMIT THE SAME CRIMES.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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Statistically, some races are more prone to violent crime than others,.
If 95% of the members of a racial group don't commit violent crime then why should they be stigmatized. The funny thing is that if some one blamed racism you would complain about the race card, and yet here are you wiping out 95% or more of a population based on what a small minority of that group do.

Should it be OK to describe whites as violent racist bigots because a small % of them indeed are?
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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Talk about a simplistic argument.

The absence of a father is only ONE factor in the violent tendencies of men. I KNOW there's no need to go into a discussion of the most violent men throughout history to prove it. There's no need to study the profiles of the men who've, say, carried out mass shootings in the US, or the hundreds of thousands per year who, as another example, seriously assault or kill their domestic partners. Like, what, there's no father around anywhere in any of these cases?
Hitler was raised by a single mother.
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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It's called Testosterone -- if that has not been mentioned in this LONG thread.
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