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Old 05-13-2017, 07:54 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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There's an old phrase that I think applies to racism and bigotry: as an American you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. I don't really see how anyone can be neutral about the hottest topic in all of this nation's history. It's the one issue that has dogged us from the very beginning of us coming to this continent right up through today.
Is it really? <bold>. I think there's thousands if not millions of people who would disagree. It may be YOUR "hottest topic" as it seems from your posts you are constantly on high alert and looking for anything that could indicate or be construed as racist/bigoted from the way someone moves their body to any word that's uttered be it at the grocery store cashier to the latest TV commercial.

I don't deny that racism/bigotry exists, it always will as we're dealing with humans who are different. It exists on all sides of the color/religious/educational spectrum and always has. How bad it is usually depends on who's Ox is being gored doesn't it?
I find it interesting that there are lots of people who are highly educated that frequently look down their collective noses at those that have no advanced education as "lesser than" or "the great unwashed" and those highly educated people are then the same ones who are constantly espousing how bigoted/racist everyone else is and stating how it needs to end.

Kind of funny/ironic isn't it?
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Old 05-13-2017, 08:34 AM
 
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Which ones? Everywhere I've been, if you broke a civilian law you got trounced first by the civilian court and then by the military for being a criminal.
The military has you sign a binding work contract that obligates you to a certain # of set years and quitting is not allowed ( punishable by imprisonment )


NO civilian company could have a binding contract like that as there isn't a judge in America who would enforce it.


It would be ruled illegal if a civilian company tried to enforce a contract similar to a military enlistment contract.
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Old 05-13-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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Is it really? <bold>. I think there's thousands if not millions of people who would disagree. It may be YOUR "hottest topic" as it seems from your posts you are constantly on high alert and looking for anything that could indicate or be construed as racist/bigoted from the way someone moves their body to any word that's uttered be it at the grocery store cashier to the latest TV commercial.

I don't deny that racism/bigotry exists, it always will as we're dealing with humans who are different. It exists on all sides of the color/religious/educational spectrum and always has. How bad it is usually depends on who's Ox is being gored doesn't it?
I find it interesting that there are lots of people who are highly educated that frequently look down their collective noses at those that have no advanced education as "lesser than" or "the great unwashed" and those highly educated people are then the same ones who are constantly espousing how bigoted/racist everyone else is and stating how it needs to end.

Kind of funny/ironic isn't it?
Here's the difference. Those that have no advanced education can choose to get one. Those who aren't educated in general can educate themselves.
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Old 05-13-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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well obama called me a racist and bigot because im white so since there nothing I can do to change his mind, I choose to do nothing. Its their problem now, so get over it.
Could you give me a reference for that. I'd like to see exactly what he said.
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Old 05-13-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Is it really? <bold>. I think there's thousands if not millions of people who would disagree. It may be YOUR "hottest topic" as it seems from your posts you are constantly on high alert and looking for anything that could indicate or be construed as racist/bigoted from the way someone moves their body to any word that's uttered be it at the grocery store cashier to the latest TV commercial.

I don't deny that racism/bigotry exists, it always will as we're dealing with humans who are different. It exists on all sides of the color/religious/educational spectrum and always has. How bad it is usually depends on who's Ox is being gored doesn't it?
I find it interesting that there are lots of people who are highly educated that frequently look down their collective noses at those that have no advanced education as "lesser than" or "the great unwashed" and those highly educated people are then the same ones who are constantly espousing how bigoted/racist everyone else is and stating how it needs to end.

Kind of funny/ironic isn't it?
Okay. You tell me what other topic has affected American history more over the entire history of this country (which is the standard I mentioned in my post).

In fact, maybe in answering you could just cite your own post (see bolded in blue).
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Old 05-13-2017, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Nice rant. Except that for virtually all of my adult working life I lived in the suburbs of Washington, D.C., including New Carrollton, Maryland (59% Black), Kettering, Maryland (90% Black), and Dumfries, Virginia (35% Black), and...just to be honest...Falls Church, Virginia (80% White). I also lived for a while in Thailand (let's see...99%+ Asian). And the last few years of retirement here in all too White Colorado. And will hopefully be moving soon to Phoenix, a majority minority area.
Not a rant at all, just trying to educate you on this race topic which seems to preoccupy your entire existence.
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Not a rant at all, just trying to educate you on this race topic which seems to preoccupy your entire existence.
Once again you don't address the post, instead you use subterfuge. The post was about your assumption that I lived in a very white area. Which is true for the past few years. And then I educated you that for about 30 years of my life I lived in the immediate vicinity of Washington, D.C. where the population is anything but lily white.
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Once again you don't address the post, instead you use subterfuge. The post was about your assumption that I lived in a very white area. Which is true for the past few years. And then I educated you that for about 30 years of my life I lived in the immediate vicinity of Washington, D.C. where the population is anything but lily white.
The post was about much more than that ... but, of course, you can't handle the truth.
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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I think that Cynthia Hurd,Susie Jackson, Ethel Lance, Depayne Middleton, Clemta Pinckney, Tywanza Sanders, Daniel Simmons, Sharonda Coleman-Singleton, and Myra Thompson might disagree with you. If they could.
The key word was "usually."
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Old 05-13-2017, 04:56 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Okay. You tell me what other topic has affected American history more over the entire history of this country (which is the standard I mentioned in my post).

In fact, maybe in answering you could just cite your own post (see bolded in blue).
Easy, Religion. It's been the excuse for killing MILLIONS in the past and that bigotry is still going strong denying opportunities across the spectrum, killing,torturing and yes, enslaving thousands if not hundreds of thousands more world wide without much if any any abatement wholly unlike the issues you now decry that have at least lessened over time.
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