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Old 05-18-2017, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Formerly New England now Texas!
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Violence is when it's forced. When a teacher offers sex to a teen boy, it sure is a crime, but not a violence.
Is it violence if the teacher is male? Is it violence if a male teacher offers sex to a teen girl? You seem to have created a self justifying definition of violence which isn't applied equitably.

 
Old 05-18-2017, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Formerly New England now Texas!
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When was the last time 130lb girl violently raped 200lb man? Or even for that matter, have you heard many stories of 200lb girl violently raping 130lb man? No one has monopoly on violence, but if among one group of people violence has higher proportions, we can look harder at that group to try to understand the causes of it, can't we?
When was the last time a female caregiver poisoned, used meds, or a pillow to suffocate someone in their care?

Note, men are raped more often than women, it's a feature of our prison system. A feature we do not like to discuss.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 04:05 PM
 
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Violence may come in "all" genders (you say that as if there are a dozen of them), but it's unquestionably seen more with men, across the board.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 01:57 AM
 
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Violence may come in "all" genders (you say that as if there are a dozen of them), but it's unquestionably seen more with men, across the board.
I have never seen a male kill his unborn child, yet women do this routinely. Isn't opening a skull, and sucking out a brain, violent?
 
Old 05-19-2017, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Is it violence if the teacher is male? Is it violence if a male teacher offers sex to a teen girl? You seem to have created a self justifying definition of violence which isn't applied equitably.
In my books, if it was consensual, without physical or implied use of force, it is not a violence. Violence is not the same as crime, you know, don't mix these two definitely different words.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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When was the last time a female caregiver poisoned, used meds, or a pillow to suffocate someone in their care?

Note, men are raped more often than women, it's a feature of our prison system. A feature we do not like to discuss.
Haven't heard of any. Definitely, it happens, but I am not sure if it happens more for female caregivers, or male caregivers. But I heard a lot of cases of family suicide (ie a guy kills his wife, his kids, and himself), but not so much cases of a women killing her man, her kids and herself.

Men raped more often by other men, so doesn't count either
 
Old 05-19-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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Haven't heard of any. Definitely, it happens, but I am not sure if it happens more for female caregivers, or male caregivers. But I heard a lot of cases of family suicide (ie a guy kills his wife, his kids, and himself), but not so much cases of a women killing her man, her kids and herself.

Men raped more often by other men, so doesn't count either
It would appear you have a self serving violence paradigm. Which isn't uncommon, as such for the entirety of life your perception will be divergent from my own. Thank you for explaining your beliefs.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Please lets not bury our heads in the sand, of course no one group has a monopoly on violence, but you're either fooling yourself or worst if you actually believe that women are as violent as men.

Ask any cop who's' responded to more than a few domestic violence calls, they'll set you straight...
NO KIDDING! no comparison.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Is it violence if the teacher is male? Is it violence if a male teacher offers sex to a teen girl? You seem to have created a self justifying definition of violence which isn't applied equitably.
No, either way it isn't violence. It is wrong if it's a minor in either case, but I wouldn't term it violent at all.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Canada
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OP, do you have any idea how many "fathers" of unwanted pregnancies insist on their "little ladies" having abortions because they want nothing to do with her having HIS child? They are so afraid and conditioned to listening to their almighty abusive man, that they agree to abort out of fear.

Sure, the woman can decide in the end, but then she'll probably get knocked around at home for going against his wishes.
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