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This is another nonsensical analogy. A more accurate one might be to consider this same 40-year-old, with a set of friends who have been rescued by his mother from abusive homes, given a safe comfortable place to live in her house, where she provides every need for them. This same 40-year-old then turns around and spits in his mother's face because she won't allow these same friends to smoke dope in her house.
Kaepernick never claimed that he wanted to 'improve race relations'; he asserted that America, as a nation, was oppressive to black people. I think that's an absurdity, but either way, no laws prevent anyone from leaving this country if they feel they are being oppressed.
Kaepernick claimed he didn't care if football was taken from him, or his endorsements, because he knew he was doing "what was right". Nothing substantial has changed, so why did he suddenly stop protesting, given that he has more support now than before?
Lol wut.
Jesus Christ the fact you think this way is telling.
I didn't say he had disappeared, I asked why he was no longer engaging in his protest. Why do you think that is?
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As for my analogy here is the real point. Just because America isn't as bad as some other countries doesn't mean it cannot improve. The love it or leave it argument is quite defensive and juvenile.
No one is suggesting that the US is perfect. Of course it isn't; every country can improve in one way or another. What's truly juvenile is to ignore the fact that Colin Kaepernick, and the people he purports to be protesting for, enjoy a lifestyle unequaled across the globe, all of it only made possible by the white people he seeks to demonize. Do you not recognize this?
I didn't say he had disappeared, I asked why he was no longer engaging in his protest. Why do you think that is?
You are inordinately hung up on this. The guy has effectively been blacklisted from the NFL. So how do you expect for him to continue his protests? Burning random American Flags and posting videos about it on YouTube?
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No one is suggesting that the US is perfect. Of course it isn't; every country can improve in one way or another. What's truly juvenile is to ignore the fact that Colin Kaepernick, and the people he purports to be protesting for, enjoy a lifestyle unequaled across the globe, all of it only made possible by the white people he seeks to demonize. Do you not recognize this?
By this reasoning, no black athlete should have ever spoken out against the oppression and injustices of black people because white people pay to watch them do what they do. Bill Russell and Muhammad Ali should've of just kept quiet and be happy while other blacks were getting mistreated.
I didn't say he had disappeared, I asked why he was no longer engaging in his protest. Why do you think that is?No one is suggesting that the US is perfect. Of course it isn't; every country can improve in one way or another. What's truly juvenile is to ignore the fact that Colin Kaepernick, and the people he purports to be protesting for, enjoy a lifestyle unequaled across the globe, all of it only made possible by the white people he seeks to demonize. Do you not recognize this?
His "protest" was sitting out the National Anthem during games, and he hasn't played this year, good grief.
His lifestyle does not mean he gives up the rights all American citizens have to protest. You make it sound like he owes white people something, that he should be grateful to us as if we created his talent. Your attitude is much more anti-American than Colin's protest. My boyfriend and millions of other men fought overseas for him to have that right, and you sitting behind a keyboard think you love our country more than them? You are denouncing all they fight for in denouncing Colin's protest and suggesting he should leave.
Why is not offending others important at all? There are many people who deserve to be corrected, reprimanded, criticized, or otherwise made uncomfortable. Even insulting has a proper place, if a limited one.
While I believe that freedom of speech is FAR more important than worrying about offending snowflakes, I also believe that our nation has gone too far with "freedom of speech". So much of what is considered "freedom of speech" is ridiculous. There is too much freedom of speech in America. When stupid egomaniac celebrities can call for a President to be assassinated, groups like Antifa are free to roam the streets, and people can burn the American flag- that is too much freedom. These people should be in prison. Either that, or deport them to N Korea where they will learn to appreciate freedom.
Why is not offending others important at all? There are many people who deserve to be corrected, reprimanded, criticized, or otherwise made uncomfortable. Even insulting has a proper place, if a limited one.
Seems quite misanthropic. Again legal freedom of speech is different from observing social norms and customs.
While I believe that freedom of speech is FAR more important than worrying about offending snowflakes, I also believe that our nation has gone too far with "freedom of speech". So much of what is considered "freedom of speech" is ridiculous. There is too much freedom of speech in America. When stupid egomaniac celebrities can call for a President to be assassinated, groups like Antifa are free to roam the streets, and people can burn the American flag- that is too much freedom. These people should be in prison. Either that, or deport them to N Korea where they will learn to appreciate freedom.
In other words, things that personally offend you should be banned but things that offends others, they should just deal with it.
While I believe that freedom of speech is FAR more important than worrying about offending snowflakes, I also believe that our nation has gone too far with "freedom of speech". So much of what is considered "freedom of speech" is ridiculous. There is too much freedom of speech in America. When stupid egomaniac celebrities can call for a President to be assassinated, groups like Antifa are free to roam the streets, and people can burn the American flag- that is too much freedom. These people should be in prison. Either that, or deport them to N Korea where they will learn to appreciate freedom.
Sounds like you're the one who would rather live somewhere else to me.
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